"The Pope and President Bush met privately at the White
House, and they prayed together. And I believe it was the
first time anyone had been on their knees in the Oval
Office since...well..." -David Letterman

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Ironic,


the grandson of a Nazi money launderer and Hitler-enabler meeting with a former Hitler Youth and soldier


I wonder how many Seig Heils they did together.

WOW...I didn't even think of that..LOL thats even funnier..seriously LMAO.

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My grand father was a worthless philanderer, that doesn't make me one, does it?

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you would agree wouldn't you, that being a philanderer is a quantum leap difference than being a nazi money launderer and Hitler enabler.

Most people would see the difference.

Assuming you have children - Would you'd let the son of a child molester babysit your kids?

Now that's a stretch! I suppose any argument can be made, regardless of truth... Still, I would expect serious investigation prior to such a statement, let alone argument.

What about the grandson? What you're trying to do is called "guilt by association" and while it works in many cases, yours is factually baseless on its face, not to mention inaccurate.

What most people would probably like to see, is any proof to go along with your comments. Keep in mind, you're mainly saying things that either did or didn't happen, long before you were around and involving people you've probably never personally laid eyes on, let alone gotten to know yourself.

It never ceases to amaze me what the completely uninformed will come up with to spread on "the information superhighway," thus making it appear to be "the mis-information super slow way" almost by themselves. Here's a hint for the future... Check into an American History class. Or you can continue to make foolish, clearly uneducated comments... Your choice, of course.

I mean no personal offense, but I find it less than amusing to see what can only be deemed silly or ignorant comments. So you're a far-left liberal. Big deal. The facts won't change merely because you don't know them.

perhaps you've never heard of the Union Bank of New York? Google that and Nazi and see what you turn up.


I do not make uneducated comments.

I'll even give you a source thats Fair and Balanced:

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Now, if Fox news reported it, what might other sources have that go beyond what Fox was willing to confirm?

Funny how that wasn't in the normal history books.

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I've heard of it. Now go back and look into his real associations for which you claim him a money launderer and Hitler-enabler. And you also called him a philanderer... (Removed "philanderer comment" My bad. Read two things...) The rest stays the same...

Since you clearly haven't looked into the "Union Banking Corporation" yourself, I'll "educate" you on the fact he owned a single share of the company's stock. He was the director, and had to own a stock. That was his association. That hardly amounts to money launderer and wouldn't stand up in any American court for 2 minutes. Indeed, he had other interests which would have a much stronger case... if only you actually knew about them...

Of course, if you really know about the man, you'd also know what a liberal he was. But then you'd prolly have to like him...

And go look into the reality of the Pope and his past, ie, being FORCED to join the Hitler Youth and FORCED to serve in the "army" as an anti-aircraft gunner or the like... A position, by the way, he never actually served... Oh, and by the way... He also deserted. He was merely 18 when WWII ended... No, you don't make unedcated comments... Sure...

How much was that share worth when he cashed it out? Those were profits made on the war and on concentration camp workers.

Care to post those other interests that you believe make a stronger case?

Do you know about his support for the American Eugenics movement? That was the direct predecessor for the Nazi eugenics movement.

For you to assume that someone is a liberal because they make a post against Bush is hardly being honest in criticism. There are plenty of conservatives that dislike him and his family too.

Do you know when or to whom he actually cashed that share? Did you know Thyssen was no longer in control of the bank by the time we entered the war?

No I don't. I'm not trying to trash the man, let alone his family generations after him. If you look, you'll be able to find it yourself.

So you're saying he supported something in America which was later something used in Germany and that makes him an enabler too? "Weak" is a total understatement. Besides, the Nazi's killed millions of Jews because they were Jews, not because of their intelligence, but their race or creed. The American Eugenics movement was nothing like the Nazi's movement. And Mr. Bush isn't really mentioned involving American Eugenics. If he supported it, so be it... Many people would agree at that time all across America.

While there are plenty of conservatives who dislike President Bush, you seem to be a liberal. I have read many of your political contributions here... You seem to support the ACLU, the 9/11 conspiracy theory, the idea that going back to war with Iraq wasn't legal, and even the idea that whoever doesn't see things your way is either wrong altogether, or doesn't truly deserve to be taken seriously(a totally liberal mindset). You also seem to lay blame on our government for many things you think are wrong, and you seem to want something handed to you as if you deserve it simply because others who invested differently actually got it(the Socialist midset). Maybe I got you all wrong... Our government has indeed made huge mistakes, but don't blame the President for it. He's only one of what, 535+ others?

I agree with what I suspect is your view on taxation(Fair Tax) to some degree... I don't, however, agree that conservatism is a bad thing. Further, it isn't just for Republicans as we both know(and I'm not a Republican). But wasn't it you who opined, "Mantra of the Conservatives: Privatize the profits, socialize the losses." ... It looks from that comment, you're more inline with Democrats as a whole, and desire to socialize everything(to make it even).

Personally, I consider myself "a po' broke" and haven't the money to do many things I wish to do. With that, I can either try to earn more money or complain that someone else is doing so and I'm not reaping any reward for their(or my) labor in the process... Does that mean I should have political leanings making attempts to give someone else a bad rap? I don't think so. Indeed, I'd rather be broke and happy than "even" with the rest, and unhappy because I know I can't have more with more effort.

Bottom line here: The President and the Pope had a private meeting... It had nothing to do with being a Nazi as neither are.