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| Hmm so if he had to pay less in taxes when he started his business cause they were reduced he might not have gotten behind and might have been more sucessful sooner, but what do I know simple math is out of my grasp. |
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| Way to miss the point. Of course, I would expect no less.
__________________ "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Ben Franklin "As long as Democrats support a Presidential candidate that harbors anti-American sentiment, they can not claim to be Americans." - Joetro "It is inexcusable that 4 million NRA members bear the load for 80 million gun owners and 20 million hunters." - John C. Sigler |
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| I think he is saying that all his life he has worked hard on his own to make it in this world. In that time building a company into companies, to not only help himself, but to employee others as well. In all this time he did not ask for government money, nor was offered any. He did not choose to sit on his butt at the welfare office and ask for food stamps, and waiting until the first of the month for his check to come in. He has paid taxes not only for himself, but matching employment taxes, workers comp, and all the other taxes involved in owning a business and employing others. He has helped the economy by purchasing trucks, equipment, tools, paying property taxes, and paying his employees who are spending money for things they could not have by being on welfare. He has sacraficed his time and his health to acheive a goal of independence along with the satisfaction of doing something himself. This man has worked hard, only to see 40% of his lifes work vanish because of greed and corrupt politicians such as Barney Frank and associates. Now the presumed next president wants to come along and raise taxes on this "rich" man in order to "spread the wealth" to the lazy slobs who would not work in this mans company. Slobs who would rather watch People's Court and wait for their check at the first of the month. I haved owned several small businesses. I have lost money, and I have made money. I have laid awake at night with a tightness in my chest wondering if I was going to lose everything. I have lost almost everything before. I have awoke at night in a sweat screaming from nightmares about the bad economy and my failing business. There is no doubt I have taken years off of my life doing these things. These were my decisions, no others, and I am not blaming anyone. I am not asking for restitution for the bad years either. I now find my current business in a pinch because people who are wanting to buy what I sell can not get credit. These people are not deadbeats or bad credit risk. They are denied credit because of the acts of liberal politicians who forced institutions to loan money to people who had no intention of paying it back. We are now all paying for that ridiculious idea, as people who once could go to a bank and walk out with money are now coming out empty handed. Now someone wants to come alone and take this man's, and also my money, that we sacraficed for, and give it to someone whos biggest contribution to society is cashing a check and playing the lottery. |
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| Yup glossed over his point and made a point that he would have been more sucessful sooner. Dang me why do I continue to make logical sense and not base my ideology on what I may become and not what I am. You guys keep talking about these people that get checks on the first of the month, well I have been out of work for months at a time before, before I had a cdl, and was unable to get any help at all. I have known many people who have come on hard times that see the same thing, no check on the first of the month. But I guess that office is hidden where only the super poor special moochers know where its at. Oh and they all live in your nieghborhood and shop in the same stores. Pull up in their escalades, and where awesome clothes and have jewlery right?? Or do you just assume these things because of there skin color, age, what they talk like, who is around them. Or do you ask them and have them show you there check for that month. No you just make an assumption based on the above. Don't worry we all do it, but you are judging a whole system by those that you assume are on welfare. Damn those people that didn't want to work 6 days and work more than 40 hours, I bet he wishes it were the old days so he could hire some kids and work them to death, they don't complain as much cause they havent learned anything in those liberal schools. There should be no minimum wage either, hell they should live in company housing and go to the company store and never be able to not work for me. Oh nevermind its ok for a few business owners to control workers and production but not the workers themselves. That is the irony of capitalism, it is the illusian of freedom but the slavery of work with only the few getting any rewards. There are plenty of people that keep working harder and never get ahead, they never will. But they keep going because they think that they are free to. Fact is it is illeagal to not have a place to live. Try and sleep on the streets sometime, you can't do it without getting in trouble. I know there are people that do and have been for years, but they have been arrested many times in the mean time, sometimes just to stay warm for the night. But your right they have the freedom to die early and hopefully sooner right?? That way that plight of society can be gone. Lets keep going though, lets get rid of any affordable housing, that way the workers that cory wants to hire and pay only the minum he can have no place to live. (I used to deliver for a water well drilling company, their employees are very poorly paid, while the owners have lots of cash on hand at anytime) Yeah no more poor houses that will raise our real estate prices. Well hmm now no one is around to mow my lawn, or do any electrician work, or plumbing work, or frame my house, or bring my mail, clean the streets, repair the roads, fly the planes, drive the buses, work at the sanitation stations, drive a truck to bring my stuff, repair my telephone lines or fix my cable(so I can watch bill o'riley), take care of me in the hospital if I get sick, or teach my children ( I am much to busy running my super company). So I drive down the bumpy road to work, I am almost out of gas cause no one is running the service station. Its very hard to get to the office as no one has replaced the bulbs in the signals after they burnt out. I don't have anyone to write to because all the people in government quit. Once I get to the office I find no one there to do the work, they all left. This all happened when mccain came into office, everyone just left there companys and started their own. Well now there are millions of companys but no one that wants to do the work. Nobody ever wanted to believe the old saying, To many cheifs not enough indians. So now that everyone owns there own business no work gets done cause they are the boss and they shouldn't have to "work" for their money anymore. They are all CEO's that just want to take in the money and not have to labor anymore. Funny that without labor this country would stop, but who cares about them lets care about the few that don't do the work and get all the feast. Last edited by Rupiefied; 10.27.2008 at 10.44 PM.. Reason: to add to post |
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Gotcha.
__________________ "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -Ben Franklin "As long as Democrats support a Presidential candidate that harbors anti-American sentiment, they can not claim to be Americans." - Joetro "It is inexcusable that 4 million NRA members bear the load for 80 million gun owners and 20 million hunters." - John C. Sigler |
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Okay, so help me understand what you're saying. You twisted his words, changed his point so that you would be saying what he might have been if he hadn't been what he was and is? And you think that's being logical and is the ideology of what you are and not what you may become? Are you from Star Trek? Do you live in a parallel universe to us? It's fine if you do, I'm just asking. Are you from the episode with the little fuzzy creatures that make everyone happy? cool! |
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Come on over here and I will take you to several people I used to deliver heating fuel to. I know who and what these people did. I delivered for Christian Ministries and Social Services. There were some deserving people, but many were lazy moochers. If that is just here-say, I will take you a couple states away to where I have most of my very close relatives fit the description I stated. I am not proud to say this about my own people, but the truth is the truth. And by the way, we are all white, just in case you thought I was racist too. |
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| No wasn't accusing anyone of being racist, just stating some people may make that assumption based on skin color, its terrible I know but some people do. |
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Where are all the people who do not want to own a business, or can't own a business, going to work if the small business owner is taxed out of business. I work solo now because of taxes, insurance, and regulation cost. I have employed as many as eight full time and a few part time people before. One thing I have found in common with most employees. They all think just because you own the business and give them paychecks, you are rich, and under pay them. Many weeks the employees ended up making more than me, but would never believe me, for I own the business and I am rich. They don't think that at the end of the day they go home and don't worry until the next day. I go home and ponder how to stay in business and meet payroll and taxes. If I go out of business, I lose everything I own, if I go out of business, the employee gets unemployment until he gets another job. I took the big risk with my whole life and everything I own. I should reap some rewards for this, not have my money taken away to be given to others who did nothing. |
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