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With all due respect, CRA didn't have anything to do with Banking Regulations. At the time, Banks were refusing to loan money based on a person's zipcode, and not on their ability to pay back the loan and/or credit history. These people were living in slum areas. You don't want them in "your" neighborhood, you don't want them to have a Government handout, and you don't even want them to have access to the same line of credit that you have. What's the answer? Are you content with just having them live in their own squallor from now own so you can pass judgement on them? They 'really' don't want that, but good LORD, if it was left up to most folks, they'd be NO way out.

CRA NEVER said that a person had to be given Housing they couldn't afford. But, the greedy Banks didn't like having to invest in poor neighborhoods because of the appraisal rates. Right or wrong, thats the way it was.

It was Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act in 1999, that allowed the Banking industry to do what its done. The predatory lending wasn't just done to Black folks. It deregulated the Banking/Mortgage Industry period. Please blame the right people for whats happened here.
We never said it was done just to black folks, those are your words. The fact is that anyone that has been paying attention to news other than CNN or MSNBC would know that Dodd and Frank had their hands in the cookie jar and allowed the banks to continue, instead of putting a leash on them. ACORN members protested and harrassed bankers to make the loans.
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If there's any remaining doubts in anyone's mind....
A fairly concise and detailed audio of the how and why including the Federal Community Investment Act (Jimmy Carter) is found here:
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Golden..This was an interesting audio. But, I do think it had a bit of political bias to it. I can't comment on the part ACORN has played in this, because I honestly, don't have a clue. Just like with ENRON, they've all had their hands in the cookie jar and set up the perfect storm.

To go back 30 yrs. in History and pick out The CRA as a starting point, just makes no sense to me. Here's the text to the Bill.

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From the way I read it, it was never intended that this interfere with "safe and sound" operation of the institutions. It just required that if these institutions take the deposits of a community, they make available credit. There were places that offered them "credit" in their FDIC reviews, for "free-rent", but I see no where that required them to lessen their lending standards.

I'm wondering...Why not go back to the creation of Fannie and Freddie? Why not when they were Privatized? The truth is, nobody can pick one particular event for the Financial Crisis as we know it. Many, many revisions were made to CRA, many economic principles applied, and alot of Government interference when there shouldn't have been. This has gone on since the creation of the Federal Reserve, and our first dollar of National debt.

But, (imo) 1999 is when a CAT 1 Hurricane became a CAT 4. Now, it's a fullfledged CAT 5.
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We never said it was done just to black folks, those are your words. The fact is that anyone that has been paying attention to news other than CNN or MSNBC would know that Dodd and Frank had their hands in the cookie jar and allowed the banks to continue, instead of putting a leash on them. ACORN members protested and harrassed bankers to make the loans.
Please point out in the text I listed above where CRA was the source of this problem, because I don't see it.
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Please point out in the text I listed above where CRA was the source of this problem, because I don't see it.
I said the CRA was the source of the problem along with various other connections due to pressure from community groups and politicians. I was also pointing that I had never said the predatory lending was just black folks. I read the last paragraph of your statement to mean that some of us had said that black people were targeted.

I originally brought up the CRA in repsonse to something Rationalist had said in a previous post.
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Please point out in the text I listed above where CRA was the source of this problem, because I don't see it.
Please actually do some of your own research instead of asking people to do it for you.. The facts are out there all over the net... The Dems made the banking institutions loan money to risky borrows or suffer huge penalties...

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And more proof of the Dems saying there was no problem
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Some people just absolutely refuse to listen and understand.
Most of them voted for obama.
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"Please actually do some of your own research instead of asking people to do it for you.. The facts are out there all over the net... The Dems made the banking institutions loan money to risky borrows or suffer huge penalties..."

And you 'really' believe the Democrats are solely responsible? Sweet.
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Think Community Reinvestment Act, along with the help of ACORN harassing bankers, protesting in their lobbys, and hanging around outside bankers homes. You can't have missed that info over the last couple of months.

Actually, this is what you said. Since there were Womens Groups also protesting against Discrimination back in 1977 which benefited from this Legislation (and you failed to mention them) the reference to ACORN only left a certain cloud over your comment. My mistake.
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Actually, this is what you said. Since there were Womens Groups also protesting against Discrimination back in 1977 which benefited from this Legislation (and you failed to mention them) the reference to ACORN only left a certain cloud over your comment. My mistake.
I didn't know about the women's groups at all. I was working with information that was brought out recently after the whole Fannie/Freddie mess. The information I had seen did not mention the Women's Groups at all, which is why I didn't know about them. I was in elementary school when that stuff was going on. Didn't mean to make it confusing!

I should have also clarified that I was referring more to the changes made to the CRA under the Clinton Admin, as that was when things got really screwy with that program.
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