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Politics Do Not Pass/Pass With Care. Today's truckers are far more educated and cognizant of the issues regarding politics due to the sharp increase in talk radio, and various trucking news media sources. Talk politics. Do truckers like politicians?

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Monica Ramos embraces her husband, former U.S. Border Patrol agent Ignacio Ramos, two days before he was sentenced to 11 years in prison (Courtesy El Paso Times)
President George W. Bush today added a convicted methamphetamine dealer, a cocaine distributor and two marijuana suppliers to the list of drug operators he's pardoned while in office, bringing his total of [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. to 36.
He's also pardoned more than a dozen thieves, seven embezzlers, an arsonist, several mail thieves, a man who violated the Neutrality Act and eight Thanksgiving turkeys, but there's been no clemency for U.S. Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean, who were convicted of shooting at a fleeing drug smuggler.
Andy Ramirez, of [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. long has been involved in the Ramos-Compean case, and said the questions just start piling up.
"First and foremost is the question that has to be asked, 'Why is the president dug in so deep' on Ramos and Compean?" Ramirez said. "Look at how many members of Congress have sent him letters, and have held hearings.
"You really have got to start to wonder … does this doper (in the Ramos-Compean case) lead to somebody really big?" he said.
Joe Loya, the father-in-law for Ramos, said he, his daughter and grandchildren were "devastated" by word that Ramos and Compean had been denied clemency on the latest list of presidential actions.
"We were praying for a miracle. We just don't understand where the connection is when drug smugglers are getting pardons and commuted sentences, yet two agents who are not criminals, who were just doing their jobs, are in isolation," he told WND by telephone as he traveled to visit his son-in-law in jail on Christmas Eve.
"George Bush could redeem himself," he continued. "Ninety-five percent of our support is coming from Republicans. He certainly has nothing to lose.
"He could make millions of people feel good about it, or he could make one person (prosecutor) Johnny Sutton," Loya said. "We hope he will do the right thing."
Bush today released a list of 19 more pardons or commutations. Included were a commutation of the life prison term for Reed Raymond Prior of Iowa, convicted of dealing methamphetamine. Pardons were handed out to William Alvis III of Ohio for cocaine distribution and Steve Doyle Cavender of Florida and Marie Elena Eppens of Washington for distributing marijuana.
Prior had admitted having methamphetamine with plans to distribute it, following three prior felony drug convictions. Bush has approved 10 commutations and about 200 pardons in his two terms, about half of those granted by Bill Clinton.
Ramos and Compean, meanwhile, are serving 11- and 12-year prison sentences, respectively, for shooting an illegal alien drug dealer while he smuggled nearly 750 pounds of marijuana across the border. They were convicted of assault, discharge of a weapon in the commission of a crime of violence and deprivation of civil rights.
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U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton's office gave the smuggler, Osbaldo Aldrete-Davila, full immunity from prosecution for agreeing to serve as the government's star witness and testify against the border agents. A [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. , affirmed all convictions except for tampering with an official proceeding, which it vacated and remanded for resentencing.
While Aldrete-Davila was waiting to testify against the agents, he also was involved in another drug smuggling case, but that information was withheld from jurors in the Ramos-Compean trial.
Eventually, the smuggler was sentenced for the second case, but his sentence was considerably shorter than that of the agents who tried to halt his activities in the earlier episode.
Ramos' attorney, David Botsworth, said a petition for writ of certiorari was filed with the U.S. Supreme Court and docketed on Dec. 11. The government has the right to file a response should it choose to do so by early January.

"It's obviously an astronomical uphill battle to get review in the Supreme Court," Botsworth said. "I think the issues are worthy of their consideration."
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And to think, he is planning to move back to Texas and hasn't dealt with this issue. Something stinks in Washington, and I think it is Bush.
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And to think, he is planning to move back to Texas and hasn't dealt with this issue. Something stinks in Washington, and I think it is Bush.
I'm sure he is more interested in making a boatload of cash like his Dad and Clinton and doesn't want to cause any waves with his Mexican buds. He is not very popular here now and this will make it even more so. There were large demonstrations at SMU campus where he wants to put his library against the campus doing so. They finally allowed it when the big money crowd got involved.
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Bush needs to pull his head out of his ### and do the right thing....Pardon those two.
This makes my blood boil......
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This issue is shameful. I've sent several letters to the President concerning it. I have believed he would pardon them before leaving office but am now discouraged.
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I'm sure he is more interested in making a boatload of cash like his Dad and Clinton and doesn't want to cause any waves with his Mexican buds. He is not very popular here now and this will make it even more so. There were large demonstrations at SMU campus where he wants to put his library against the campus doing so. They finally allowed it when the big money crowd got involved.
You may have taken notice of the names of the two agents involved.

Ignacio Ramos, Jose Compean

Pretty certain they are hispanic.
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You may have taken notice of the names of the two agents involved.

Ignacio Ramos, Jose Compean

Pretty certain they are hispanic.
Yes, but they're American. The Mexican gov't has been a bit pushy on this issue. Seems they think it's terrible if American law enforcement shoots a Mexican drug dealer in the hiney while he's evading arrest.

It's the Mexican government that some don't wish to irritate.
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Yes, but they're American. The Mexican gov't has been a bit pushy on this issue. Seems they think it's terrible if American law enforcement shoots a Mexican drug dealer in the hiney while he's evading arrest.

It's the Mexican government that some don't wish to irritate.

So, who is trying to please?

Americans or the Mexican government? He really has me wondering.
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As a gun owner, and a concealed weapons card holder. One of the stipulations, conditions, however you want to put it, is when using my weapon in self defense, is that I'm defending myself. If I fire at a fleeing attacker (even though I be attacked and bloody) and happen to hit him, I can be arrested, convicted, and subsequently sued for assault with a deadly weapon.

Supposedly they "heard" gunshots, but provide no evidence. Why should these two be exonerated, when a regular citizen would not? I don't necessarily agree with the law, but what's good for one (the citizen) needs to be good for the "public servant".
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So, who is trying to please?

Americans or the Mexican government? He really has me wondering.

Well, he's sure not pleasing me. And as most know I have been a Bush supporter. He's finally disgusted even me. I personally feel the treatment of these two officers is obscene. The only thing actually wrong that they did was to not report the incident. It's absolutely absurd that a mexican citizen who is flat dab proven to be a major player in drug smuggling from Mexico to the U.S. is given immunity so that law enforcement agents can be railroaded.

And railroaded is exactly what happened to them. The shot at and manage to wound a criminal as he resisted arrest. And for that the prosecutor has moved mountains to persecute them for.

I personally wouldn't vote for George W. Bush if he was running for dog catcher because of his failure to pardon these two men. When we treat criminals better than our law enforcement agents then obviously we're in trouble.

Did I mention my beloved husband was in law enforcement for 20 years? Perhaps I'm prejudice.
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