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Fine......but it's still not a guarantee, nor a responsibility.....

If you're too lazy too work...you shouldn't eat period....

What happened to the "Work-reward" system?

Oh, that's right....the Social engineers changed that to
The few work, get taxed at a higher rate to support those who don't.....or rather WON'T!!!
got 4,000,000 on the rolls right now but they all say they want to work but got canned... lol
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got 4,000,000 on the rolls right now but they all say they want to work but got canned... lol
Kick out the Illegals and pick fruit, pull weeds, work...do something productive....instead of the typical liberal response: "BLAME BUSH....." and then sit on your a-z-z.....


Since there's 25 million illegals living in the US...just imagine how many jobs that would open up if every one one them went back home and fixed their own countries......
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Dear Con.Dem: Evidently you're not a wordsmith and do not understand the beginning and evolution of words and their usage.

How sad for you.

How tragic for me that others continue to send me your posts. You're rather like a bad case of foot fungus, not important but a bit irritating.
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Notice in the definition. <must look out for YOUR OWN welfare> comes first!! Making one think that is the most important definition!! Also I find it very unlikely that an "agency or program" existed in the 14th Century!! Would imagine it was survival of the fitest. Natural selection is a wonderful thing when left to run its course. If you can take care of you & your own you die off that simple!!


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Main Entry: 1wel·fare Truckers Pronunciation: \ˈwel-ˌfer\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English, from the phrase wel faren to fare well Date: 14th century 1: the state of doing well especially in respect to good fortune, happiness, well-being, or prosperity <must look out for your own welfare>2 a: aid in the form of money or necessities for those in need b: an agency or program through which such aid is distributed


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got 4,000,000 on the rolls right now but they all say they want to work but got canned... lol
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Words mean things...education? Indoctrination?
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The word welfare, like the closely-related wealth, has moved a long way since it first appeared in the fourteenth century.

It was formed as a combination of well, in the sense we still use it, with fare. The latter was originally a verb meaning “to travel” (the modern German verb fahren is a close relative). So the phrase “fare well” was a wish on parting that you should have a safe journey, which later became our farewell (in Julius Caesar, Shakespeare uses both forms in one sentence: “Farewell my dearest sister, fare thee well”). Our modern sense of the price of a journey rather than the journey itself is a classic case of a transferred meaning. A figurative sense grew up of how you were doing or how well you were being provided for (“how are you faring?”), and this was the origin of the word in its sense of “food” (as in bill of fare).
Originally welfare meant the state or condition of how well one was doing, of one’s happiness, good fortune or prosperity. Shakespeare has Queen Margaret say in Henry VI: “Take heed, my lord; the welfare of us all / Hangs on the cutting short that fraudful man”. And John Locke, in An Essay Concerning Human Understanding (1690): “Thus the being and welfare of a man’s children or friends, producing constant delight in him, he is said constantly to love them”.

This remained so until the beginning of this century, when changes in the relationship between individuals and the state caused an extended sense to appear of an organised effort to maintain the members of a community in a state of well-being, both physical and economic.

One reason for this new usage was that older terms, particularly charity, had too many unacceptable overtones relating to recipients’ loss of self-respect and dignity in accepting help. So welfare was useful in expressing similar ideas but without this historical baggage of associations.

Its rise was fairly meteoric, with welfare work being spotted first in 1903, welfare manager in 1904, welfare policy in 1905, and welfare centre in 1917. The defining term in this lexicon, at least in Britain, welfare state, is first recorded in 1941.
One result of this new usage was that the word moved from being a term for a condition to one for a process or activity. For example, Arnold Bennett wrote in Pretty Lady in 1918: “Canteens, and rest-rooms, and libraries, and sanitation, and all this damned ‘welfare’ ”. It also took on the penumbra of associations that charity had before it; many examples are recorded of people in need refusing to take assistance, despite being firmly told that “you’re entitled to it; it’s not charity”.
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Now, that should clarify the subject and put to rest Con.Dem.'s false claims. Of course he could always claim that the documents were written in 1920.
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The word welfare, like the closely-related wealth, has moved a long way since it first appeared in the fourteenth century.

It was formed as a combination of well, in the sense we still use it, with fare. The latter was originally a verb meaning “to travel” (the modern German verb fahren is a close relative). So the phrase “fare well” was a wish on parting that you should have a safe journey, which later became our farewell (in Julius Caesar, Shakespeare uses both forms in one sentence: “Farewell my dearest sister, fare thee well”). Our modern sense of the price of a journey rather than the journey itself is a classic case of a transferred meaning. A figurative sense grew up of how you were doing or how well you were being provided for (“how are you faring?”), and this was the origin of the word in its sense of “food” (as in bill of fare).
Originally welfare meant the state or condition of how well one was doing, of one’s happiness, good fortune or prosperity. Shakespeare has Queen Margaret say in Henry VI: “Take heed, my lord; the welfare of us all / Hangs on the cutting short that fraudful man”. And John Locke, in An Essay Concerning Human Understanding (1690): “Thus the being and welfare of a man’s children or friends, producing constant delight in him, he is said constantly to love them”.

This remained so until the beginning of this century, when changes in the relationship between individuals and the state caused an extended sense to appear of an organised effort to maintain the members of a community in a state of well-being, both physical and economic.

One reason for this new usage was that older terms, particularly charity, had too many unacceptable overtones relating to recipients’ loss of self-respect and dignity in accepting help. So welfare was useful in expressing similar ideas but without this historical baggage of associations.

Its rise was fairly meteoric, with welfare work being spotted first in 1903, welfare manager in 1904, welfare policy in 1905, and welfare centre in 1917. The defining term in this lexicon, at least in Britain, welfare state, is first recorded in 1941.
One result of this new usage was that the word moved from being a term for a condition to one for a process or activity. For example, Arnold Bennett wrote in Pretty Lady in 1918: “Canteens, and rest-rooms, and libraries, and sanitation, and all this damned ‘welfare’ ”. It also took on the penumbra of associations that charity had before it; many examples are recorded of people in need refusing to take assistance, despite being firmly told that “you’re entitled to it; it’s not charity”.
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How about reperations for everyone that has lost their work because of the liberal policies.Kick out all of the millions of illegals in our country and watch how fast a lot of people's jobs will come back to them(black & white.)More jobs for tax payers equals more money for the economy.More money spent adds up to a stimulated economy huh,nah that has to be wrong,it can't be that easy.Oh well Sharpton & crew I'll give you my 40 acres & a mule if you'll work on the immigration problem with Osama Bin Bama!!!!!
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Words mean things...education? Indoctrination?
take a philosophy class... you get to define language...
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take a philosophy class... you get to define language...

Oh really? Indoctrination or education is still indoctrination or education...knowledge (factual occurences)...indoctrination (spreading of rumors with intent to present opinion as fact using situation and circumstance in an attempt to justify a feeling or belief)

I don't need a philosophy class to understand english...maybe you might want to take a class incomprehension of the english language according to the dictionary.
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