Originally Posted by rex

The statement can easily stand on it's own merit. Why? Because it's true- Iraq was indeed a stable nation (although a dictatorship) before the invasion, and the United States did indeed overthrow it's government.
Are you prepared to dispute these two facts?
rx

Originally Posted by doubledragon5

Your kidding right? Sure it was stable, under Saddams control. If you step out of line you were shot or tortured. He also killed thousands of his own people.. The middle east will always be unstable and have large numbers of death whether the US steps in or doesn't

Originally Posted by roadkill439342

Originally Posted by Working Class Patriot

Right...Then let's make a Constitutional requirement that prevents lawyers from running (holding) for public office....that would be a good start.....
Also Community Organizers have no place in public office......

Originally Posted by csmonitor

WASHINGTON - I'm thinking of an American president who demonized ethnic groups as enemies of the state, censored the press, imprisoned dissidents, bullied political opponents, spewed propaganda, often expressed contempt for the Constitution, approved warrantless searches and eavesdropping, and pursued his policies with a blind, religious certainty.

Oh, and I'm not thinking of George W. Bush, but another "W" – actually "WW": Woodrow Wilson, the Democrat who served from 1913 to 1921.

President Wilson is mostly remembered today as the first modern liberal president, the first (and only) POTUS with a PhD, and the only political scientist to occupy the Oval Office. He was the champion of "self determination" and the author of the idealistic but doomed "Fourteen Points" – his vision of peace for Europe and his hope for a League of Nations. But the nature of his presidency has largely been forgotten.

That's a shame, because Wilson's two terms in office provide the clearest historical window into the soul of progressivism. Wilson's racism, his ideological rigidity, and his antipathy toward the Constitution were all products of the progressive worldview. And since "progressivism" is suddenly in vogue – today's leading Democrats proudly wear the label – it's worth actually reviewing what progressivism was and what actually happened under the last full-throated progressive president.

The record should give sober pause to anyone who's mesmerized by the progressive promise.

Wilson, like the bulk of progressive intellectuals in fin-de-siècle America, was deeply influenced by three strands of thought: philosophical Pragmatism, Hegelianism, and Darwinism. This heady intellectual cocktail produced a drunken arrogance and the conviction that the old rules no longer applied.


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Originally Posted by M.Enterprises

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand he's banned. LOL

Originally Posted by ConservativeDemocrat

Hopefully not permanently tho. i have recieved as much abuse from him as anyone but look forward to debates with him for the most part. i understand the need to ban certain people now and then but he is harmless for the most part. Besides not all bans are permanent here but often a few days to let them re-think their avenues of approach.