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Consider the amount of CO, CO2, H2S, ash, and other pollutants that are released into the atmosphere during a volcanic eruption....But I suppose it's ok when Mother Nature pollutes...after all...that's nature right?
consider we can't control the volcano and its coming... if things are already polluted to where we can only live marginally and then we add in the naturally occuring volcanos you can see where we'd be pushed over the edge.

there's been two great extinctions on this planet I don't really want us to be either number three or number three with the footnote self induced.

its all a little slower than nuclear war... but the outcome is likely the same.
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Also while you're doing some research....Please explain the global warming on Mars....[LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link.


I'm sure you'll ignore the link and blame Bush and SUVs for that occurrence too.....
interesting article that starts out with, "according to one scientist's controversial theory."

but I do appreciate your bringing this alternate theory to my attention because it brings up a question I'd like to pose to you...

since I am a nut for believing in man made global warming... and the conservative dialog has been there is no such thing as global warming...

does this article which clearly states that there is global warming on two planets mean that you are no longer a rush junky or that they now accept global warming as a fact just differ in points of view as to its cause???

what's up there???
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consider we can't control the volcano and its coming... if things are already polluted to where we can only live marginally and then we add in the naturally occuring volcanos you can see where we'd be pushed over the edge.

there's been two great extinctions on this planet I don't really want us to be either number three or number three with the footnote self induced.

its all a little slower than nuclear war... but the outcome is likely the same.
Actually there has been more......
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Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction, about 65 million years ago, probably caused or aggravated by impact of several-mile-wide asteroid that created the Chicxulub crater now hidden on the Yucatan Peninsula and beneath the Gulf of Mexico. Some argue for other causes, including gradual climate change or flood-like volcanic eruptions of basalt lava from Indias Deccan Traps. The extinction killed 16 percent of marine families, 47 percent of marine genera (the classification above species) and 18 percent of land vertebrate families, including the dinosaurs.
End Triassic extinction, roughly 199 million to 214 million years ago, most likely caused by massive floods of lava erupting from the central Atlantic magmatic province -- an event that triggered the opening of the Atlantic Ocean. The volcanism may have led to deadly global warming. Rocks from the eruptions now are found in the eastern United States, eastern Brazil, North Africa and Spain. The death toll: 22 percent of marine families, 52 percent of marine genera. Vertebrate deaths are unclear.
Permian-Triassic extinction, about 251 million years ago. Many scientists suspect a comet or asteroid impact, although direct evidence has not been found. Others believe the cause was flood volcanism from the Siberian Traps and related loss of oxygen in the seas. Still others believe the impact triggered the volcanism and also may have done so during the Cretaceous-Tertiary extinction. The Permian-Triassic catastrophe was Earths worst mass extinction, killing 95 percent of all species, 53 percent of marine families, 84 percent of marine genera and an estimated 70 percent of land species such as plants, insects and vertebrate animals.
Late Devonian extinction, about 364 million years ago, cause unknown. It killed 22 percent of marine families and 57 percent of marine genera. Erwin said little is known about land organisms at the time.
Ordovician-Silurian extinction, about 439 million years ago, caused by a drop in sea levels as glaciers formed, then by rising sea levels as glaciers melted. The toll: 25 percent of marine families and 60 percent of marine genera.......[LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link.
and of course the "Mass Extinction of 1932" when commonsense left the US government and allowed Socialism to take root on Jan 20th , 1933 in the form of FDR.......
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Actually there has been more......
and of course the "Mass Extinction of 1932" when commonsense left the US government and allowed Socialism to take root on Jan 20th , 1933 in the form of FDR.......
that whole common sense controversy was an over-rated gene...

cut that pair and splice in radical capitalism and look where we are today...
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that whole common sense controversy was an over-rated gene...

cut that pair and splice in radical capitalism and look where we are today...
You'll never "Get it"....


*shakes head and walks away laughing.....
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Leaving the political discussion behind I have a theory about the source of our electricity in the future.

Today, for all practical purposes, all of our power is generated by power companies. Tomorrow, I believe our power will be generated in a more organic way. Much research is being conducted on making PV solar cells more efficient and less expensive. One process layers cells that are responsive to different frequencies of the light spectrum increasing efficiency of the cells. These cells are printed using a machine similar to an ink jet printer significantly reducing production costs. So, deploying these generation systems on a home or small business becomes more attractive.

If the cost of installing a system like this could be covered by the reduction in your power bill, you must admit you would be more likely to consider it as an option. Many people would jump on the opportunity which leads to higher mass production levels and even cheaper cost to implement. Look at how the price of computers declined.

In addition, the common household appliance is being developed to use less electricity. For example, the new OLED TVs use less power than other technologies. New refrigerators are far more efficient. Air conditioning units are in the 14 SEER range now. These are all small improvements but when you consider the impact of 100,000 homes using energy efficient appliances the impact is significant.

My theory is that in the future much, maybe even most, of our power will be generated on our homes and businesses (organically). We will still be connected by the grid for those times when our solar or wind systems aren't generating enough (cloudy days or at night). But the power generated by the power companies will be reduced or eliminated during all other times.

The power companies business model will change because most of the cost will be in grid maintenance rather than power generation. We will generate enough power during the day that our cost for power consumption will be nearly zero. Nuclear and fossil fuel pollution will be reduced to inconsequential.

With efficient solar cells you could drive your electric car to work and the sun would recharge your batteries while you worked. These new efficient cells can even get enough light on a cloudy day to generate a usable amount of power. You might have a secondary propulsion system, like gas, to compliment the electricity for long trips.

Polution would be reduced to nearly nothing. That way we could continue to operate diesel trucks with really cool sounding Jake brakes indefinitely!!!
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Just imagine if every rooftop in the southwest had solar panels.....

How much energy would be produced?
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Consider the amount of CO, CO2, H2S, ash, and other pollutants that are released into the atmosphere during a volcanic eruption....But I suppose it's ok when Mother Nature pollutes...after all...that's nature right?
Absoposilutely. You beat me to it. I would imagine that billions of barrels of oil are burned as lava travels to the surface.

One of the problems we have is that most people believe that the earth is really billions of years old and that sword cuts both ways. If it was really billions of years old, the oceans would be too salty to support life and there are many other inconsistencies with the billions of years theory. There is so much bunk being passed off as science that both sides could easily argue their case and support it with scientific studies.

I don't believe that we are too stupid to outlive our resources. We are turning the population trend, but these things take a few generations to see the results.

I also believe that we will certainly find other energy solutions when the oil supply REALLY starts to get low. It's all about supply and demand. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. The number one reason I can see for alternative energy solutions is simply to be independent of foreign sources and nothing more... and I do believe that that is a very good reason to minimize our use.
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One of the problems we have is that most people believe that the earth is really billions of years old and that sword cuts both ways. If it was really billions of years old, the oceans would be too salty to support life and there are many other inconsistencies with the billions of years theory. There is so much bunk being passed off as science that both sides could easily argue their case and support it with scientific studies.

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sorry but I just gotta ask... why would the oceans be too salty ?
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sorry but I just gotta ask... why would the oceans be too salty ?
Al Gore says it's because of Global Warming......

The seas are evaporating much like the salt ponds used for harvesting sea salt.....Just a matter of time.....the salt will be higher than Mt. Everest....
BTW.....why not make lemonade out of lemons.....
Grow more corn and make more butter....
Global Warming won't be so bad with our Hot, Salted, Buttered, Popcorn......
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