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sorry but I just gotta ask... why would the oceans be too salty ?
It's simple math that scientists who study this sort of stuff have calculated that the salt entering the oceans from rivers would be too high to support life if it was billions of years old.

There are many scientists that believe the earth is much younger. Every time the Darwinians can't explain something, they just add a few billion years and problem solved. I am not a scientist, so I do not claim to know all the answers. What I do know though, is there is a lot of science to support both sides of most energy/global warming arguments. I trust the discernment that God gave me and prefer to believe the scientists that seem to use a more common sense approach rather than a political approach.

We are not going to solve any energy issues, but I think we can help others to rest easier about the Chicken Little politics. When the time comes, those that are making money on energy will figure out ways to continue delivering the energy we need, regardless of its source.

We have had automobiles with IC engines for about 100 years now and we like them. I'm certain we will figure out ways to continue to keep them moving.

I do believe it is good to start looking at different energy sources now, but for different reasons than global warming.
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It's simple math that scientists who study this sort of stuff have calculated that the salt entering the oceans from rivers would be too high to support life if it was billions of years old.

There are many scientists that believe the earth is much younger. Every time the Darwinians can't explain something, they just add a few billion years and problem solved. I am not a scientist, so I do not claim to know all the answers. What I do know though, is there is a lot of science to support both sides of most energy/global warming arguments. I trust the discernment that God gave me and prefer to believe the scientists that seem to use a more common sense approach rather than a political approach.
thanks for the answer... never heard the idea of rivers making the oceans to salty...?

on the surface of the argument it doesn't make sense to me that rivers would carry very much salt anywhere. I mean they are on the surface and after you washed the surface salt away it wouldn't seem to just keep reproducing making more salt for next rainy season???

and the aquafers has had the benefit of collecting earth filtered water.

I guess I'll need to look it up and do some reading... interesting...
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Absoposilutely. You beat me to it. I would imagine that billions of barrels of oil are burned as lava travels to the surface.

One of the problems we have is that most people believe that the earth is really billions of years old and that sword cuts both ways. If it was really billions of years old, the oceans would be too salty to support life and there are many other inconsistencies with the billions of years theory. There is so much bunk being passed off as science that both sides could easily argue their case and support it with scientific studies.

I don't believe that we are too stupid to outlive our resources. We are turning the population trend, but these things take a few generations to see the results.

I also believe that we will certainly find other energy solutions when the oil supply REALLY starts to get low. It's all about supply and demand. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed. The number one reason I can see for alternative energy solutions is simply to be independent of foreign sources and nothing more... and I do believe that that is a very good reason to minimize our use.
If the earth were billions of years old, the oceans would be too salty????
Where the hell is THAT coming from?

How do you 'splain the giant salt deposits....well just here in the U.S.?
Kansas, Oklahoma, all around the Great Lakes, not to mention Utah?

That #### didn't just jump there in a 6,000 year history. It was deposited over a period of MILLIONS and MILLIONS of years when a GIANT (or several) salty oceans dried up. Some of these "salt deposits" are 1000's of feet thick.
One thing about water. it doesn't just "disappear". One gallon of water is still one gallon; in liquid form, solid form (ice) or gas form (water vapor).
There is EXACTLY the same amount of water on this planet that there always has been. The ONLY thing that would make the oceans MORE salty is for them to flush the salt out of the deposits.
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thanks for the answer... never heard the idea of rivers making the oceans to salty...?

on the surface of the argument it doesn't make sense to me that rivers would carry very much salt anywhere. I mean they are on the surface and after you washed the surface salt away it wouldn't seem to just keep reproducing making more salt for next rainy season???

and the aquafers has had the benefit of collecting earth filtered water.

I guess I'll need to look it up and do some reading... interesting...
I believe he is thinking about the street-wash up here in the "Rust-Belt". We DO use a lot of salt during the winter.
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I believe he is thinking about the street-wash up here in the "Rust-Belt". We DO use a lot of salt during the winter.
there ya go... its those danged prehistoric indians salting the deer trails and polluting the rivers...
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thanks for the answer... never heard the idea of rivers making the oceans to salty...?

on the surface of the argument it doesn't make sense to me that rivers would carry very much salt anywhere. I mean they are on the surface and after you washed the surface salt away it wouldn't seem to just keep reproducing making more salt for next rainy season???

and the aquafers has had the benefit of collecting earth filtered water.

I guess I'll need to look it up and do some reading... interesting...
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If the earth were billions of years old, the oceans would be too salty????
Where the hell is THAT coming from?

How do you 'splain the giant salt deposits....well just here in the U.S.?
Kansas, Oklahoma, all around the Great Lakes, not to mention Utah?

That #### didn't just jump there in a 6,000 year history. It was deposited over a period of MILLIONS and MILLIONS of years when a GIANT (or several) salty oceans dried up. Some of these "salt deposits" are 1000's of feet thick.
One thing about water. it doesn't just "disappear". One gallon of water is still one gallon; in liquid form, solid form (ice) or gas form (water vapor).
There is EXACTLY the same amount of water on this planet that there always has been. The ONLY thing that would make the oceans MORE salty is for them to flush the salt out of the deposits.
According to a study by Austin and Humphreys the oldest that the oceans could be is 62 million years based on the rate of sediments, including Na +, that are carried into the oceans and the rate at which they are removed.

Like I said before, I am not a scientist.

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I believe he is thinking about the street-wash up here in the "Rust-Belt". We DO use a lot of salt during the winter.
Haha. We sure do put a lot of salt on our roads, but it is still a pretty short history compared to the many years of natural erosion.
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Nevermind that there exists in nature a radioactive isotope with a half life the exact age of the planet. Nope. The world is only 10,000 years old.

Oh by the way. 6 billion years isn't the age of the planet. It's the age of the whole entire solar system, sun included. Everything was formed at once. The only things not that old are the ages of surfaces(like the surfaces of moons and Mars and Venus).
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Nevermind that there exists in nature a radioactive isotope with a half life the exact age of the planet. Nope. The world is only 10,000 years old.

Oh by the way. 6 billion years isn't the age of the planet. It's the age of the whole entire solar system, sun included. Everything was formed at once. The only things not that old are the ages of surfaces(like the surfaces of moons and Mars and Venus).
My dentist is also an archeologist..actually he's what they call a "Forensic Archeologist" who specializes in the ancient Egyptians...He gives presentation to schools and has been on several digs inn Egypt.

The Egyptian empire can be traced as far back as 10,000 years.....
So that blows-out the theory the Earth is only 6000 years old.....


IIIRC...researchers have found ancient air trapped in ice cores that are well over a million years old.....

The concentration of CO2 was much higher than it is today btw...for you Global Warming types.....
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My dentist is also an archeologist..actually he's what they call a "Forensic Archeologist" who specializes in the ancient Egyptians...He gives presentation to schools and has been on several digs inn Egypt.

The Egyptian empire can be traced as far back as 10,000 years.....
So that blows-out the theory the Earth is only 6000 years old.....


IIIRC...researchers have found ancient air trapped in ice cores that are well over a million years old.....

The concentration of CO2 was much higher than it is today btw...for you Global Warming types.....
Trees in the middle east? No wonder it was higher.
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