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Here's How You Tell If Health Care Will Be Rationed Under ObamaCare
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Here is a handy-dandy way to determine whether the failure to order some exam or treatment constitutes rationing: If the patient were the president, would he get it? If he'd get it and you wouldn't, it's rationing.
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Do we really think EVERYONE would get the same care the President would?
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Do we really think EVERYONE would get the same care the President would?
I think if you had the same doctor, yes you would... provided you and the president weren't there at the same time...

the primary scare tactic from the ditto-heads has been they'll ration health care...

health care is rationed right now... I have to make an appointment and wait my turn and cardiac arrest takes precedent over the sniffles.

now if your rich enough to afford a personal physician there may be no waiting??? but for everyone with insurance you get triaged and an appointment set.

the real money savings, it is hoped, will come from preventative care which is much cheaper than treating diseases that are plenty preventable and when caught early are very treatable vs waiting until you are screwed to the wall to go see the doctor and only heroic treatments will prolong your expiration date by a few months.
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What about the triage based on how well the patient took care of themselves....
I gave up smoking over 25 years ago...Obama still smokes....therefore...I am a much better risk than Obama, and I should be treated for my hangnail before Obama gets a set of new lungs...after all....he did it to himself right?
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I think if you had the same doctor, yes you would... provided you and the president weren't there at the same time...

That's a crock period.. You or I wouldn't be able to afford the fee, the doctor charges to treat Obla-bla..
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I think if you had the same doctor, yes you would... provided you and the president weren't there at the same time...

the primary scare tactic from the ditto-heads has been they'll ration health care...

health care is rationed right now... I have to make an appointment and wait my turn and cardiac arrest takes precedent over the sniffles.

now if your rich enough to afford a personal physician there may be no waiting??? but for everyone with insurance you get triaged and an appointment set.

the real money savings, it is hoped, will come from preventative care which is much cheaper than treating diseases that are plenty preventable and when caught early are very treatable vs waiting until you are screwed to the wall to go see the doctor and only heroic treatments will prolong your expiration date by a few months.
Only one small insignificant difference:
the way it is now, if you don't like what you get, you can get "it" from someone else.
Not so with "Government" Health Care. If you don't like what you are getting........where else do you go, Cuba?
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I think if you had the same doctor, yes you would... provided you and the president weren't there at the same time...

the primary scare tactic from the ditto-heads has been they'll ration health care...

health care is rationed right now... I have to make an appointment and wait my turn and cardiac arrest takes precedent over the sniffles.

now if your rich enough to afford a personal physician there may be no waiting??? but for everyone with insurance you get triaged and an appointment set.

the real money savings, it is hoped, will come from preventative care which is much cheaper than treating diseases that are plenty preventable and when caught early are very treatable vs waiting until you are screwed to the wall to go see the doctor and only heroic treatments will prolong your expiration date by a few months.
Real money savings?

Savings for whom?
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Savings for whom?
Savings for the libs when grandma whose life could have been saved was told to take two acetaminophen for her stroke and call back in 6 mos.......Meanwhile Ted Kennedy continues to swig Irish whiskey at our expense....
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What about the triage based on how well the patient took care of themselves....
I gave up smoking over 25 years ago...Obama still smokes....therefore...I am a much better risk than Obama, and I should be treated for my hangnail before Obama gets a set of new lungs...after all....he did it to himself right?
triage is based on need though there is the no hope catagory... a handnail however can wait...
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That's a crock period.. You or I wouldn't be able to afford the fee, the doctor charges to treat Obla-bla..
obama doesn't pay... he is insured and those doctors at bathesda work dirt cheap in spite of being the best anywhere.
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