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I think you are just wasting bandwith.

Most of the people will not read something that long, so it is a waste.
Not to, uh, change the subject, but do you even know what bandwidth is with a site/forum/server?
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Maybe, maybe not.

Google United Healthcare.

Their profits are going through the roof. They charged double digit premium increases on top of it. The salaries they paid the board are just unreal. If they were reasonable, maybe the premium increase would have been more realistic.

My own policy went up 18 percent. I am seriously considering the cancellation of the policy.

I have gotten quotes raising it from a 3,000 deductible to 5,000 and it just does not save much. It is all they offer.

I have even got a quote for just a Catastrophic policy and it does not lower it much because of the high deductible I already have.

I have not seen a doctor in over 3 years other than for a DOT physical.

People just don't understand the profit levels and salaries on these companies. And just how much further they could go in helping America out of this crisis.

I understand, it's their business. But they better wake up. If the don't bring their cost down, the government is going to kick in some much needed competition, and they will only be able to get up 1/4 of their profits if that happens.

In Canada, I can get private health care insurance for about $350 a month. That's hospital, dental, Rx ...It's everything except vision.... And if they want to keep chargiing me as much as my mortgage, I will be glad to get on the Governments insurance. At least until the private insurance cost come down....

Because I'm like you, I very seldom ever go to a doctor. But paying these high costs, month after month seems useless sometimes.

I heard a republican talking about bring the cost down yesterday. He said that Americans should be able to buy health insurance across state lines....

Well,, HELLO... It's as expencive in other states as it is in mine....
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People just don't understand the profit levels and salaries on these companies. And just how much further they could go in helping America out of this crisis.

I understand, it's their business. But they better wake up. If the don't bring their cost down, the government is going to kick in some much needed competition, and they will only be able to get up 1/4 of their profits if that happens.

In Canada, I can get private health care insurance for about $350 a month. That's hospital, dental, Rx ...It's everything except vision.... And if they want to keep chargiing me as much as my mortgage, I will be glad to get on the Governments insurance. At least until the private insurance cost come down....

Because I'm like you, I very seldom ever go to a doctor. But paying these high costs, month after month seems useless sometimes.

I heard a republican talking about bring the cost down yesterday. He said that Americans should be able to buy health insurance across state lines....

Well,, HELLO... It's as expencive in other states as it is in mine....
You can get cell phone service in china for less then 5 dollars a mouth and it a better network too. What does any of this have to do with us nothing? You are comparing things that can’t be compared. They have 20% of our population they have a signal payer system.

what % of the peaple by that 300 ins.?
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Canadian health care is cheaper. Of course you can't get everything done there, but it's cheaper.

End of story.
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I don't care about if a person is Liberal, Conservative, Democrat, Independent, I simply DO NOT WANT "Nationalized Health Care" system!!

Call me irrational, but, to ME, this is just one more step towards becoming a different NATION!

I do NOT want our country to become like France, Canada, (no offense, ya'll, but I LOVE my country, with all of it's flaws), or Great Britain! (Hey, isn't THAT the country our forefathers fled from? To form a Nation of our OWN? And NOT have to follow in their footsteps??!!!??)

And as for other Third World countries, if America adopts the "Universal Health Care", how are all these poor kids, who have horrific health problems, and physical deformities, get free travel here, free housing, free doctors/SPECIALISTS, free hospital stays, etc.(Most of which are covered by the pro-bono of the said docs, and hospitals...NATIONALIZED HEALTH CARE will take that option AWAY!!!!) WHERE are they to get all of that?
This is a wonderful way for the prosperity of Americans, and our health care, and doctors, and hospitals, to help others less fortunate. Take that away, and we will be just ANOTHER country with some truly - UP health care system.

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Sorry about that word, Baack, and everyone....
I don't want a National Health Care Plan either. But I don't want to pay $1,000 a month for health care either. I don't want my insurance company getting even more rich and powerful than the friggin government.

Example. We all need the interstates & highways. We don't mind paying taxes, so that the government can maintain them. We don't want to have to pull into a cash box with every turn on every different road. So, we accept the fact that it's the best solution.

Why are the highways more important than our health? After all, the constitution doesn't allow the Federal Government to build roads. And neither doesn't it allow the government to be involved with health care.

I would advise all of you to contact your insurance company and tell them, that if they don't lower their prices, cover more illness's, then you will welcome the Government's plan.

That doesn't mean you actually have to mean it. But it will have an effect on the insurance companies decisions to keep prices so high.

BTW, for all you company drivers out there. Keep this in mind. If the cost of health care continues to rise, as it has been doubling in the last few years, what are you going to do when your boss comes to you and says "I can't afford to pay your health care anymore, you'll have to find your own"? Then you'll be paying the $1,000 a month.

The insurance companies could fix this if they wanted to. But they won't, unless they are forced to.

Wanna see what government competition does? Just go to blue cross of canada, and get an insurance quote, as if you lived in Canada. Then do the same search with Blue Cross in your own state.

You'll find that the cost are around $700 a mont cheaper for PRIVATE insurance. Remember, I'm talking PRIVATE insurance to see your PRIVATE doctor. Not the canadian governments waiting lines. But your own.
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Canadian health care is cheaper. Of course you can't get everything done there, but it's cheaper.

End of story.
I can get anything done here and our health care system is ranked higher than the USA system on every single ratings list I have ever seen. It costs me nothing out of my pocket, zero, zilch, nada. I also don't worry that I'm going to be cut off for any reason.
Now if that is not enough of an argument for universal health care how about this. The Canadian government spends just over one half as much as the US government already spends on it. This is not including the TRILLIONS of dollars that the American people have to give to those modern robber barons, The insurance industry.
My dad and my uncle where both in the Health care insurance business when the government took over. I heard all the same wailing and knashing of teeth about it then that I hear from the American industry and those they have fooled now.
I may not trust the government to a degree but I totally do not trust the insurance industry. My dad got sick while he was in Florida and he had a real good policy. After he was released from the hospital the insurance company denied him coverage and stuck my parents with a $300 thousand bill. Their reason for not paying was totally bogus and I suppose that a lot of people would just be stuck with that. My uncle who not only was the Canadian president of a large American insurance company at one time and went on to own his own insurance company knew just how to handle this. It's a long story but the outcome was that not only did the insurance company pay the bill but they gave my parents $150 thousand not to sue. My uncle was going for a couple million. Any way, who needs these kind of hassles when you are fighting for your life?
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I can get anything done here and our health care system is ranked higher than the USA system on every single ratings list I have ever seen. It costs me nothing out of my pocket, zero, zilch, nada. I also don't worry that I'm going to be cut off for any reason.
Now if that is not enough of an argument for universal health care how about this. The Canadian government spends just over one half as much as the US government already spends on it. This is not including the TRILLIONS of dollars that the American people have to give to those modern robber barons, The insurance industry.
My dad and my uncle where both in the Health care insurance business when the government took over. I heard all the same wailing and knashing of teeth about it then that I hear from the American industry and those they have fooled now.
I may not trust the government to a degree but I totally do not trust the insurance industry. My dad got sick while he was in Florida and he had a real good policy. After he was released from the hospital the insurance company denied him coverage and stuck my parents with a $300 thousand bill. Their reason for not paying was totally bogus and I suppose that a lot of people would just be stuck with that. My uncle who not only was the Canadian president of a large American insurance company at one time and went on to own his own insurance company knew just how to handle this. It's a long story but the outcome was that not only did the insurance company pay the bill but they gave my parents $150 thousand not to sue. My uncle was going for a couple million. Any way, who needs these kind of hassles when you are fighting for your life?
Want to talk about wait times?

How about we discuss doctor shortages?

Please, there are several threads where I have shredded every claim you Canucks have made about your great health care system.

You want to fix the health insurance industry?

Then get government away from it.

Let them sell nationwide.

Companies that treat people fairly and at a good price will survive, those that screw over patients will not.

Just like any product, insurance will be bought by people from the company that gives the best bang for the buck.
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let them sell nationwide

Sounds good. Competition would lower prices and no government bungling except how do you stop them from forming monopolies such as big companies buying out little companies and eventually have a few big players that set costs behind closed doors?
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I wanted to add some thing to my post. I travel all over the USA and I meet and talk to many people. Most of the people that I talk to are working people working in truck stops, fast food places, stores, etc. I show them my health card and ask them "how would you like to have one of these?" "What is it?" they respond. I tell them it's like a credit card for health care, No limits no deductable and best of all no payments ever. Now that is a pretty good discription of universal healthcare. What persentage of the American workers that I have shown this to said," I'd like one of those?" I have never spoken to one person who said they would not want that. That sounds like 100% to me. As far as paying more income taxes goes those low paid people whom I'm talking to would not pay any income tax in Canada anyway. I have one daughter who is a low paid single mother and she instead of paying taxes gets a $700 a month tax refund as a credit for being a low wage earner.
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I wanted to add some thing to my post. I travel all over the USA and I meet and talk to many people. Most of the people that I talk to are working people working in truck stops, fast food places, stores, etc. I show them my health card and ask them "how would you like to have one of these?" "What is it?" they respond. I tell them it's like a credit card for health care, No limits no deductable and best of all no payments ever. Now that is a pretty good discription of universal healthcare. What persentage of the American workers that I have shown this to said," I'd like one of those?" I have never spoken to one person who said they would not want that. That sounds like 100% to me. As far as paying more income taxes goes those low paid people whom I'm talking to would not pay any income tax in Canada anyway. I have one daughter who is a low paid single mother and she instead of paying taxes gets a $700 a month tax refund as a credit for being a low wage earner.
Their answer of yes might explain why they are flipping burgers or working the fuel counter.
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