I knew you'd bring that up.

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No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders.

Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, November 4, 1775

then you also knew I'd say, charitable organization recieving about 90% of its funding from private donations...

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Though your argument is very clever, I don't think it will lead to the results you desire. gandhi

Um, was this supposed to be a defense of ACORN? Because it's not working.

Perhaps their intention was to garner enough publicity so that ACORN's corruption couldn't be ignored, or swept under a rug, or handled by overworked local DAs facing a team of ACORN attorneys. You'll have to ask them.

But they can't be charged with obstruction of justice or impeding a police investigation, because there was no police investigation. But there have been since then, eh?

And you know what? Publicity is just what is needed. Handing these tapes over to the police in each city doesn't guarantee that the police will take the time to follow up in an efficient manner. Especially if nobody knows about the tape(s) except the two stingers and whoever was working the desk at the police station that day. But if the whole country (or at least those who watch FoxNews, which is usually more than the other networks combined) knows about the tapes, then ACORN's corruption can't be ignored, can it?

Shine a light on ACORN. The brighter the better. Let's watch the cockroaches scatter. If you think ACORN is so pure and so wholesome, you would be welcoming the light instead of b!tching about it.

Yeah yeah, and there's a question of whether the planes that struck WTC 1&2 were remote-controlled. There are questions, and then there are legitimate questions.

And the cops did look into the ACORN worker who claimed she killed her abusive husband.

Do you do paper logs?

Yes, 5 of 24. The two stingers didn't go to every ACORN office. What you're trying to insinuate is that the ones they didn't visit aren't corrupt, which you can't prove. So far, we know they visited 24 ACORN housing offices. Of those 24, 5 (so far) have incriminated themselves on video. Do you see how that works? You can't add all the other ACORN offices and claim them to be part of the equation. Now if we find out that the two stingers did go to every single ACORN office and came away with 5 tapes of ACORN corruption, then you can claim less than 1%, or 5 of (total number of ACORN offices). See how that works? 5 of 24, or 20.83%. So far.

Oh I dunno... the ones on the Left are pretty easy to spot. Just check out the pictures on zombietime.com.

Too bad ACORN doesn't do their own ferreting, and concerned college students have to take it upon themselves to do it for them.

Maybe if ACORN truly had the intentions they espouse (and you believe), they would ferret out their crooks and loons before a pair of comically-dressed 20-somethings with marginal acting skills came in with hidden cameras. Then they could live up to the 99+% you give them credit for, instead of knee-jerk defending the -80% rate we've glimpsed so far.

first off I think you are wrong on multiple points... no surprise but how bad your math and logic skills are do surprise me.

it primarily was not a defense of acorn but rather an offense against the videographers ulterior motives and how they hurt a predominently good organization and really did nothing to punnish the bad apples.

how could it be ignored if they systematically documented findings and turned them over to the fbi for follow-up and were guaranteed to break the news... just like chris hanson is?

the evidense (tape) might get the bad apples fired but it won't stop acorn or put anybody in jail. had the followed reasonable protocol like going to the police and setting up a sting operation this could be different... but they didn't want to let the law handle it they only wanted to smear acorn anyway they could and as sensationally as they could.

across state lines the fbi could be involved and get to the top of the pile if there is one or else find out if these s were working out of bounds... did their supervisors know? did the supervisors authorize or train? all we can do now is guess... and that's all the videographer wanted... was to make people guess or assume... not find out the truth.

I welcome justice not video vigilantism.

lol actually I never heard that one... but do you seriously think the heads of acorn would jeopardize their jobs (cushy as they are) to get a weasel into housing??? that isn't logical and is why I question everything.

and what did they find out about that? what did they find out that acorn had to do with it?

not since april 1st.

the video does not show that every person in the 5 taped offices was corrupt so why do you assume that all of the employees are guilty instead of just the ones on tape? people on tape = 1%


sure they are.... you can pick them out at the grocery store no less... guilty guilty not not not guilty ohhhh look at her she's gotta be guilty... lol

sure everybody should do their own stings on their neighbors and employees to see what comes up??? and obama is the nazi right???? lol


there's good and bad in all campaigns, politics, clergy... ect...

but I'm never so naive as to be dismissive or think that all involved are truly black hearted, evil or stupid.

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Though your argument is very clever, I don't think it will lead to the results you desire. gandhi

Somebody needs to look up the defintion of the word vigilantism.

Yes, I knew that. I just wanted you to admit it.

Chris who? Guaranteed? Really? You're that sure? Yes, of course you are. I've known an FBI agent and a couple of TBI agents.

Like I said, I've known a few people in law enforcement. The procedure for setting up a sting operation involves a lot of paperwork, authorization, and time. All the while knowing that the case would end up getting killed by Eric Holder. Remember election day, when a "video vigilante" filmed New Black Panthers intimidating voters in front of a polling place, one holding a weapon? What happened to that case? Obama never worked for the New Black Panthers. He was never a member. The New Black Panthers weren't the most prominent group promoting Obama for president. ACORN was all of that to Barry, and more.

Your argument is what, that the authorities can't investigate? Of course they can. And now they know which offices to start in.

You're not going to get justice under this administration. Period.

Trying to project your logic or sense of reason onto others is not going to work. The heads of ACORN don't see their positions getting jeopardized, especially not with Obama in the White House, and Eric Holder in the AG office. If anyone tries, they can 1. attack the messenger (see top), 2. blame it all on a few bad apples (which them seem to hire a lot of), or 3. cry racism. They probably have some other defensive strategies, likely taken out of Alinsky's playbook.

I didn't follow up, but I think they found out she lied her butt off. Apparently, all of her ex-husbands are alive. What did ACORN have to do with it? Oh, they just hired her, that's all. But if it helps, [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. is some background on her.

Good. That'll save you some explaining in the long run.

Ah, so you know how many people worked in each office, do you? Mind posting that here?

More like the "whole foods market"...




Although some do try to blend in...





Not everybody gets the hang of it...







I bet it hurt to take that off...

ACORN is hardly a "neighbor". It's a partisan, national political powerhouse, getting several billions in federal funding (aka taxpayers' income). How big is it? Check out this spreadsheet: [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. .

True, but when there is an undeniable pattern... plus you also have to consider the goals, both stated and practiced.

Shut up.

Political disent is only Patriotic when the left does it. Haven't you learned that yet?

Dude.... Shes hot



Drives a Swift Truck



I used to "do" his sister



Victim of spousal abuse. His 450lbs wife kicks his ### everyday



This was just prior to the last of the surgeries



3o year old virgin living in parents basement, first time seeing day light in 5 years



Not bad! Still blinded by the obama light. 212.5 more hours before she realizes were still not out of iraq and goes ape ####.

Even Swift does a better job of screening their employees than ACORN does! Either that, or ACORN purposely hires Leftist crooks and cons.

I thought it was CD for a moment.

GOOD ONE!

My definition of HELL: Showering after a Swift employee, and finding used sweatpants considered "too used up" to keep.