We may as well pull all troops out while Barry is in the White House, we can go back and finish in 2012 when there is an adult President.

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This is so typical of liberal Democrats. They aren't against robust defense or war they cry, they are just always against the war we happen to actually be fighting.

But some theoretical future war? Oh absolutely, under the right conditions they are so there.

Barry has a choice, give the Progressive wing a public health plan or appease the anti-war faction.

Seems he made his choice.

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McChrystal's request in plain English

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"When things look bad, and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb mad dog mean. Cause if you lose your head and you give up, then you neither live nor win, that's just the way it is." --the Outlaw Josey Wales

Yeah, the only thing there. The report was actually submitted at the end of August. Apparently oby1 has had more important things to do like kissing arab ### than to fight a war he is responsible for.

Like figure out how to blame Bush for it instead of doing anything he promised to do.

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I hope he doesn't blame bush... but I hope he does change strategy to meet the original goal of killing alqueda maybe even nabbing osama bin laden.

right now it seems we are trying to get an ruski-afghani-paki pipeline installed and that was never mentioned in the original text of reason to go.

We can never dominate these people into submission. IMO, we shouldn't try, what they are doing is working for them, let them do it... and we'll focus on the stated target which in reality is probably in pakistan.

and I'm not oppsed to the bombing of the taliban in support of afghan troops... but we really need to realize there is no american sense of "nationality" for the afghani's we are fighting...

we're trying to fight a hundred different tribes with differents wants needs and reasons...

you can't win in afghanistan because there really isn't an afghanistan only lines drawn on a map.

it would be like us trying to invade south america declaring buenos aires was the capital and we'd work our way out thru the states with a policy of capture and hold until the continent were united...

good luck in any three life times...

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