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Jim Bob · **^ Top** #21 10.17.2009

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Originally Posted by Working Class Patriot

Nope.....

I worked in refineries, transfer stations....

I chased leaks on crude and product lines..... I worked at the Hydrogen production plants.......
I also worked on pipeline emergencies and damages as well......

Oil production is much more than just drilling my friend....and btw.....It creates jobs at all ends of the spectrum...

Without oil...the world as we know it stops....and then we'll be living in caves....eating cold sheyat and coconuts......

How does that give you any expertise in the financial market side of the oil business?

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Originally Posted by Working Class Patriot

Oil is not the enemy........

Who said it was? Most people are talking about monopolistic "Oil Companies" when they talk about "Oil".

Jim Bob · **^ Top** #22 10.17.2009

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Originally Posted by kajidono

What wildcatters? You're talking about not allowing drilling in areas that no drilling is allowed in because an oil company might get a contract from the government and not drill in the areas that are not being drilled in? Do you even read what you write?

Big oil wants to make damn sure there is no possibility of those lands being opened up to small and medium sized extractors.

This country used to be full of small oil drillers and refiners, you can see their rusting hulks all over Oklahoma, big oil wants to make sure there is no possibility of competition in the future. They want contracts, and useful idiots want to help them because they think they are "fighting the good fight for business and freedom!".

kajidono · **^ Top** #23 10.17.2009

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Originally Posted by Jim Bob

How does that give you any expertise in the financial market side of the oil business?

So what makes you an expert in the financial market side of the oil business?

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Originally Posted by Jim Bob

Who said it was? Most people are talking about monopolistic "Oil Companies" when they talk about "Oil".

And what makes you the expert on what most people are talking about when they talk about oil? We're talking about oil. There's more of us than there are of you. That makes us "most people" in this context. And we are not talking about "monopolistic "Oil Companies." That's just you.

Mooney · **^ Top** #24 10.17.2009

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Originally Posted by Jim Bob

Big oil wants to make damn sure there is no possibility of those lands being opened up to small and medium sized extractors.

That's retarded.

Now is the PERFECT time to open every inch of this Country to drilling.

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Domestic drilling in an economic downturn makes even more sense, because there is no global demand to soak up increased production, so the effect in lowering prices should be more dramatic than in strong global economic times. The low prices and weak global economy also make it difficult for OPEC countries to cut production because so many OPEC countries rely on oil revenue almost entirely; it is not feasible for these countries to cut production unless the cuts increase oil prices, which will not happen in this global economic environment.

Lowered oil prices provide a direct and immediate financial stimulus for American families without any cost to the U.S. Treasury. The most obvious benefit of increased domestic oil production is lowered gas prices, which saves families hundreds of dollars a month. Lowering gas prices will do more for American families than the $1000 tax "rebate" checks Obama wants to send to people who don't pay taxes, putting money in the pockets of lower income families without turning almost half the population into welfare recipients.

Lowered oil prices also lower prices of goods that require shipping by truck, such as food, and products based on oil, such as asphalt for roads. Businesses that rely on car travel or equipment that uses gas also benefit. From the food shopper to the construction worker to the taxi driver, Americans at every level -- but particularly the middle class -- will benefit from increased domestic production. The increased economic activity will create permanent jobs, not just short term make-work jobs which have no economic justification.

Domestic drilling, and the lowering of oil prices, also helps in foreign policy. The regimes in Venezuela and Iran cannot meet their budgets at the current oil prices, and even lower prices at a minimum will hamper these countries from exporting their anti-Americanism. Russia also is highly dependent on oil revenue, and lower oil prices may inhibit Vladimir Putin from his increasingly hostile path. It is very possible that an all out push to lower oil prices will bring down hostile regimes without firing a shot.

Increased domestic drilling is not the only answer, but it is an important part of the answer. And it beats destroying the dollar and socializing our economy through trillions of dollars in new government spending programs.

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Working Class Patriot · **^ Top** #25 10.17.2009

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Originally Posted by Jim Bob

How does that give you any expertise in the financial market side of the oil business?

I'm also a speculator.....Oh....I know that's a "bad" word to you libs.........

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Who said it was? Most people are talking about monopolistic "Oil Companies" when they talk about "Oil".

Ever consider those "monopolistic" oil companies are much more than just BP, Exxon-Mobile, Chevron, Shell...et al?

There are vast oil tracts owned and operated by small companies.....

Newport Bluffs in Cali.......
In WY, OK, NM...........The big guns don't own those tracts....and in fact...there are several small refineries owned by Firebird in NM for example.....They pump the oil and refine it in their Gallup facility.....
I know this because I fill-up in Gallup every time I run through NM on the 40......

But you wouldn't know this by listening to "Madcow", "Bath-tub boy" and Mr. "tingle up my rear" on CNN now would you?

Mooniac · **^ Top** #26 10.18.2009

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Originally Posted by Jim Bob

We import three times as much oil from Canada and Mexico than we do the Middle East...and Saudi Arabia is supposed to be our friend.

We don't get a discount for drilling in our own back yard. So why risk destroying our environment???

Sarah is a bonehead.

If you want cheap oil, invade the middle east and take the oil wells, not the poppy fields of Afghanistan.

My goodness, grow up! So, where does that put you on the food chain???

Jim Bob · **^ Top** #27 10.18.2009

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Originally Posted by Working Class Patriot

I'm also a speculator.....Oh....I know that's a "bad" word to you libs.........

I'm not a new-left liberal, you are way off.

Your hero Dubya opened up the oil futures market and turned it into a casino. That's what caused diesel to spike to $5.50 a gallon. Prior to Bush you couldn't speculate much unless you were an end user who was expected to take delivery. Now oil futures change hands something like 50 times before it is delivered. Ridiculous. If it wasn't for speculators in the market diesel would be $1.25 a gallon or even less.

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Originally Posted by Working Class Patriot

Ever consider those "monopolistic" oil companies are much more than just BP, Exxon-Mobile, Chevron, Shell...et al?

There are vast oil tracts owned and operated by small companies.....

Newport Bluffs in Cali.......
In WY, OK, NM...........The big guns don't own those tracts....and in fact...there are several small refineries owned by Firebird in NM for example.....They pump the oil and refine it in their Gallup facility.....
I know this because I fill-up in Gallup every time I run through NM on the 40......

If you know anything about the oil business then you are being deceptive because you would know darn well that pumping oil is nothing, you gotta refine it and all the big oil giants control the refinery capacity in this country because they get big brother to outlaw small scale refineries through the EPA. Oh by the way, the EPA was created by a Republican.

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Originally Posted by Working Class Patriot

But you wouldn't know this by listening to "Madcow", "Bath-tub boy" and Mr. "tingle up my rear" on CNN now would you?

Try again, I don't even watch TV let alone CNN. You sound like Mark Levin with the silly names, I don't even recognize in the least bit who you are parody-ing.

equipop60 · **^ Top** #28 10.18.2009

oooh, drive a truck, speculate and still hold down a full time posting career!!!

goin2fast10 · **^ Top** #29 10.18.2009

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Originally Posted by Jim Bob

We import three times as much oil from Canada and Mexico than we do the Middle East...and Saudi Arabia is supposed to be our friend.

We don't get a discount for drilling in our own back yard. So why risk destroying our environment???

Sarah is a bonehead.

If you want cheap oil, invade the middle east and take the oil wells, not the poppy fields of Afghanistan.

The examples above are "owned" by who? Who "imports" for "profit"?

The "boneheads" are those who "feel" that the best way to "control" is to "stop" whatever THEY don't agree with for whatever BONE HEAD reason THEY "feel" furthers their egotistical, yet "flawed" inferiority complex driven lack of "common sense". Then have the audacity to "feel" that making others "feel" as bad as they do is the answer to all our problems.

Typical "man made thought process" at work. Control, control,control...70+ years of ATTEMPTING to "mandate and legislate" outcome has FAILED miserably, but the leftist in this "contrived society" STILL insist THEY are an "omnipotent" with UNquestioable "morals" and their infliction of THEIR will on others is "right". What a sad freakin joke.

Working Class Patriot · **^ Top** #30 4 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Jim Bob

I'm not a new-left liberal, you are way off.

Your hero Dubya opened up the oil futures market and turned it into a casino. That's what caused diesel to spike to $5.50 a gallon. Prior to Bush you couldn't speculate much unless you were an end user who was expected to take delivery. Now oil futures change hands something like 50 times before it is delivered. Ridiculous. If it wasn't for speculators in the market diesel would be $1.25 a gallon or even less.

If you know anything about the oil business then you are being deceptive because you would know darn well that pumping oil is nothing, you gotta refine it and all the big oil giants control the refinery capacity in this country because they get big brother to outlaw small scale refineries through the EPA. Oh by the way, the EPA was created by a Republican.

Try again, I don't even watch TV let alone CNN. You sound like Mark Levin with the silly names, I don't even recognize in the least bit who you are parody-ing.

First off: Anyone who has a 401K or a Roth is a "Speculator"........I'll wager that at least 70% of investors get their statements in the mail and toss them in the file cabinet along with their Proxy vote packages...The same don't even know what their portfolio entails......

Second: So the EPA "outlawed" small refineries?

Please have Obama send the EPA over to Gallup, NM....Firebird Fuels is "Breaking The Law"......

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