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Building LEANS then falls over from FAULTY FOUNDATION. No similarity to any of the WTC collapses.........
POOR DEMOLITION work. No similarity to any of the WTC collapses.........
Again; poor demolition work. No similarity to any of the WTC collapses.........

Have anything else you want to splooge?

I was not aiming for similarity, quite the opposite. I was aiming to debunk your previous notation that "Buildings ALWAYS fall straight down", which is incorrect.
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Looks like free fall to me. 5 seconds according to the youtube counter. Certainly not 16 seconds.
I hope they never call on you to count the fingers or toes on your children. The collapse begins with one PENTHOUSE, then the other PENTHOUSE and finally the rest of the building......takes just over 15 seconds.
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"Buildings ALWAYS fall straight down",
THAT isn't what I said. Go back and re-read what I posted.....TWICE.
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All the footage dictates differently, though. And that article you posted said that the 'lower floors' were on fire, but the shot is clearly the upper floors.

Moreover, if what you said was true, that just fuels the fire of contradiction even more, sadly. Because buildings don't fall completely down because of damage done to the top of them.
SO ####### WHAT if the photo only showed the upper floors on fire. ### #### claimed that there WAS NO ####### FIRE in the first place.
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Read my post above, again, simple physics. I was saying the exact same thing that you were. But the floors below it that were undamaged and could have supported the weight would have slowed the process if not haulted it all together. In conclusion the floors below the damaged ones that seperated themselves from the building were the force at work, causing the severed part to fall sideways, rather than straight down.

Oddly enough, it turned to dust just before reaching the ground... How could that have happened if not for something internal? There is no plausible explanation without explosives entering the mix.

Never in history has any steel building collapsed in entirety due to fire.
The damage from the debris of the collapse of WTC 1 took out about 25% of the front of the building. Look at the photos and video I posted
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Looks like free fall to me. 5 seconds according to the youtube counter. Certainly not 16 seconds.
I see, CBS was in on it as well.

Okay.
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I hope they never call on you to count the fingers or toes on your children. The collapse begins with one PENTHOUSE, then the other PENTHOUSE and finally the rest of the building......takes just over 15 seconds.
The penthouse collapsed in slow motion? Because the bulk of the building collapsed in 5 seconds. Anyone can see that, except you.

Anyone out there willing to stand up and agree with roadkill that this building took 16 seconds to collapse?

Using your own video....16 seconds? My youtube counter must be off.
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The penthouse collapsed in slow motion? Because the bulk of the building collapsed in 5 seconds. Anyone can see that, except you.

Anyone out there willing to stand up and agree with roadkill that this building took 16 seconds to collapse?

Using your own video....16 seconds? My youtube counter must be off.
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Why don't you stay away from conspiracy theory websites and real Popular Mechanics Investigation.
Never mind, we all know you can hardly get your ball-cap on as it is.
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The damage from the debris of the collapse of WTC 1 took out about 25% of the front of the building. Look at the photos and video I posted
Sorry I guess i got side tracked, first of all calm down, second of all I'm talking about all 3 buildings in the series entirety, not just building 7. My point is that without demolition the buildings would have had resistance, or as you put it another "force" at work causing the top (Damaged) portions to take the path of least resistance, which, unless the bottom floors were blown out deliberately would not have been straight down.

I understood what you said, but it doesn't change the point that i was trying to make. Those buildings were deliberate demolitions and still did not fall straight down, why? Because the bottom floors were undamaged, and in-tact.. Causing the buildings to fall sideways (not straight down).

basically my outlook is this; the top floors of the first two towers were damaged, but the buildings were built with modular units, meaning there was 3 pieces which each had x amount of floors that were free standing objects all by themselves, just stacked on top of one another with a solid "core" that went up through the center of each building with floors built around it. The modular floors that were damaged by the plane and sat in flames would have possibly fallen, and perhaps even the modular unit above that if there was one (not looking at specific floors etc), but they would have fallen sideways, and not straight down, unless the bottom floors were destroyed first.

As far as building 7 is concerned, it does not matter if the penthouses (The top floor) collapsed an hour before the rest of the building, it doesn't change the fact that physics are at work yet again. It would seem to me that the entire building collapse was actually initiated by the penthouse (Again, the top floor) but is that even possible? I beleive that all those subsequent floors would surely be able to support the weight of just one floor at the top, right? Even while considering the penthouse at the very top, a building does not fall that quickly or in that organized of a manner unless the bottom floors are given way on their own. If it was caused by the weight of the above floors you would see a stutter between each floor as it collapsed on top, and there would be a pause. It's quite possible that it would have stopped mid-way, there are many determining factors in such a debate, but I still hold the fact that there were outside forces to blame not related to the airplane strikes, and it's not just because of the manner in which these buildings fell; but also the other information that has been public for a very long time, and simply ignored by the majority, which would be several very high ranking physics professors from various universities finding traces of "Nano-Thermite" on the molten steel. Thermite is an incindiary, meaning it burns hot enough to 'melt' object rather than explode, it would have been perfect for a job like this as you can't see as many squibs or blasts, and anything and everything that gets in it's way is literally burned into a ball of molten muck.

Airplane fires do not create perfect diagonal cuts in thick steel support beams, or leave molten steel laying around for hours (Even days) after it was all said and done... Do they?
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Read my post above, again, simple physics. I was saying the exact same thing that you were. But the floors below it that were undamaged and could have supported the weight would have slowed the process if not haulted it all together. In conclusion the floors below the damaged ones that seperated themselves from the building were the force at work, causing the severed part to fall sideways, rather than straight down.

Oddly enough, it turned to dust just before reaching the ground... How could that have happened if not for something internal? There is no plausible explanation without explosives entering the mix.

Never in history has any steel building collapsed in entirety due to fire.
And never before in history had 19 Arabs piloted fully fueled jet aircraft into buildings.
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