Let me get this straight...
We're supposed to believe that the government health care will work...
But not believe the official government conclusions in regards to 9-11.....?

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We should take Rex's sage advice, how about an "independent" health care system?

Government run health care??

God help us.



To stay healthy.

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Who says the government health care would work? The only reason I support it, is because it will drive private insurance cost down.
I'm paying over $1,000 a month for private health care for me and the family.

In Canada, it's $315 a month for PRIVATE health care insurance to see a PRIVATE doctor...And all because the insurance companies actually have some competition.

I'm in it for the competition only.

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You may be...but Obama isn't......

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That doesn't change the fact that a government health care plan isn't going to lower private insurance.

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Percentage change 2002-2009 in average premiums paid to large U.S. health insurance companies- 87%

Percentage change in the profits of the top ten U.S. health insurance companies- 428% (!!!)

* Sourced from Health Care For America Now (Washington)

This is from last month's Harper's Index.
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I'll take Yahoo finance numbers over Health Care For America Now.

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Speculation. NOTHING the gov't has ever done has come in ON budget.

Again I ask; Why the hatred for "the players" in the game? They don't/didn't write "the rules". How does it make ANY sense whatsoever to want the writers of the rules to write MORE rules?

When are you "speculators" in the game of gov't omnipotence going to realize and acknowledge that to "regulate" is NOT to legislate or mandate? I just don't get it...you ALL attempt to come across as so learned and you can't/won't/don't want to accept such a simple premise, and you WILL give them authority over a "personal choice"...simply amazing.

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These guys are raking in the profits, giving the government a reason to implement an UNCONSTITUTIONAL health care plan. All the while, pricing themselves into more profits by dropping or denying coverage to millions of Americans that can't get other insurance because of pre-existing conditions that could possible kill them or shorten their lives.
When insurance companies become so greedy, that they will allow thousands of Americans to die for profits, one has to ask themselves.
"What's more horrifying, 9/11, that killed over 3,000 Americans. Or the insurance companies that allow the death of 50,000 Americans because they can't afford, or even get health insurance?"

If the government made the insurance companies except pre-existing conditions, they would just raise the cost of the premiums. If the government made them sell insurance across state lines, they would just raise the cost of the premiums in the lower priced state.

Competition competition competition.......

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Since 2000 Medicare premiums have gone from $45.50 to the current

$96.40, what's that compared to the insurance companies percentage?

Seems to me the Medicare premiums more than doubled.

Would any care to guess if they made a profit, or even broke even?

Didn't think so.

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"When things look bad, and it looks like you're not gonna make it, then you gotta get mean. I mean plumb mad dog mean. Cause if you lose your head and you give up, then you neither live nor win, that's just the way it is." --the Outlaw Josey Wales