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Politics Do Not Pass/Pass With Care. Today's truckers are far more educated and cognizant of the issues regarding politics due to the sharp increase in talk radio, and various trucking news media sources. Talk politics. Do truckers like politicians?

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Al Queda literally means "the toilet" in Arabic. Curious they should pick that as their moniker.

You REALLY are beyond your education, aren't you.
I suggest you throw away your dictionary and use something more modern.
Al Queda means (in Arabic) The CAMP, Al Queda means "toilet" in other languages......like [LINK POSTED BY MEMBER] Only Members Can View This Truck Forum Link. perhaps
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The moment we pull out of there, that regime will take over again, easily. Then we are easy targets again. That means both the US and Canada. And don't think for a second they will forget that you guys were over there.

If our security is too tight, they'll breach yours. We have to finish the job or it will come back to fighting in our own neighborhoods. There is no reasoning with these people.
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There is no reasoning with these people.
I thought President Toonces was going to make everyone love us again?
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What about the building that collapsed in its footprint that wasn't hit by an airplane?
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Many conspiracy theorists point to FEMA's preliminary report, which said there was relatively light damage to WTC 7 prior to its collapse. With the benefit of more time and resources, NIST researchers now support the working hypothesis that WTC 7 was far more compromised by falling debris than the FEMA report indicated. "The most important thing we found was that there was, in fact, physical damage to the south face of building 7," NIST's Sunder tells PM. "On about a third of the face to the center and to the bottom — approximately 10 stories — about 25 percent of the depth of the building was scooped out." NIST also discovered previously undocumented damage to WTC 7's upper stories and its southwest corner.

NIST investigators believe a combination of intense fire and severe structural damage contributed to the collapse, though assigning the exact proportion requires more research. But NIST's analysis suggests the fall of WTC 7 was an example of "progressive collapse," a process in which the failure of parts of a structure ultimately creates strains that cause the entire building to come down. Videos of the fall of WTC 7 show cracks, or "kinks," in the building's facade just before the two penthouses disappeared into the structure, one after the other. The entire building fell in on itself, with the slumping east side of the structure pulling down the west side in a diagonal collapse.

According to NIST, there was one primary reason for the building's failure: In an unusual design, the columns near the visible kinks were carrying exceptionally large loads, roughly 2000 sq. ft. of floor area for each floor. "What our preliminary analysis has shown is that if you take out just one column on one of the lower floors," Sunder notes, "it could cause a vertical progression of collapse so that the entire section comes down."

There are two other possible contributing factors still under investigation: First, trusses on the fifth and seventh floors were designed to transfer loads from one set of columns to another. With columns on the south face apparently damaged, high stresses would likely have been communicated to columns on the building's other faces, thereby exceeding their load-bearing capacities.

Second, a fifth-floor fire burned for up to 7 hours. "There was no firefighting in WTC 7," Sunder says. Investigators believe the fire was fed by tanks of diesel fuel that many tenants used to run emergency generators. Most tanks throughout the building were fairly small, but a generator on the fifth floor was connected to a large tank in the basement via a pressurized line. Says Sunder: "Our current working hypothesis is that this pressurized line was supplying fuel [to the fire] for a long period of time."

WTC 7 might have withstood the physical damage it received, or the fire that burned for hours, but those combined factors — along with the building's unusual construction — were enough to set off the chain-reaction collapse.
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YouTube video of ABC Broadcast clearly shows damage to WTC 7 from the collapse of WTC 1
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That damage; coupled with the diesel-fed fire that burned for 7 hours caused the collapse of WTC 7
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I thought President Toonces was going to make everyone love us again?
That limp wristed idiot sitting around doing nothing is more dangerous than the people trying to kill us. And by us I mean everyone who isn't them. Muslims are afraid of these people, that's how crazy they are.

People forget this is a worldwide campaign. It was not just 9-11. It was Bali, London, Madrid, they were everywhere killing people. That is what they can do when they have an entire country as a base. The only reason they don't right now is because we are sitting on it.

And there's much worse things they can do. You think an envelope with a little anthrax in it is bad. How about an oil tanker packed with used nuclear fuel rods sailing into San Francisco bay and blowing itself up. And that's just one idea that popped into my head in idle thought. I have worse ones, some of which I post to the TSA blog (where they are not published) just in case they haven't thought of it.

These guys have had years to plan and they actually know what they're doing. If we keep screwing around and let them regain enough power, we're going to wake up dead in our own homes.
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Hmmmmmmmmm.....
How many Canuks died in the Balkans defending Croats from Serbian Genocide in the Kosovo War?
It seems that even NATO troops comprise of about 70% US troops. Who does the "World" rely on when "bad-guys" run amok? Canada? Cuba? Mexico?
Dude, you seriously don't know what you are talking about. The Kosovo War was the Christians Serbs vs. Albanian Muslims fighting over Kosovo.

Clinton was the only President in history that bombed a Christian country so that a Muslim one could win.
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"Pull" is not demolition terminology for blowing up buildings.

According to my cousn who has done it for 15+ years it is. I watched a clip that said that, and I inquired about it.. It isn't as widely used, but it is used.

Either way, even if by "pull" he was implying to move away from the building, that hardly would've made it buckle perfectly. It had nearly no damage whatsoever, and it takes a lot longer than the time frame given to wire up explosive charges so it had to have been done ahead of time.

Here is another reference:

We know that the term 'pull it' means to bring the building down by means of explosives because in the same documentary a cleanup worker (in December 2001) refers to the demolition of WTC Building 6 when he says, "...we're getting ready to pull the building six."
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YouTube video of ABC Broadcast clearly shows damage to WTC 7 from the collapse of WTC 1
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That damage; coupled with the diesel-fed fire that burned for 7 hours caused the collapse of WTC 7

How is what they "Believe" years later a fact? It's a little too late to go back now... I doubt that what's shown in the picture showed the building to fall in perfect line, but there is no sense in arguing over it really.. You will believe what you want to believe.

This is a classic good V. Evil story.. We have our bad guy, right? So who cares what the rest of the story is... It seems that's all we need, a good guy and a bad guy and naturally since we live in America we must be the good guy, right?

Those aren't facts. It's just as much assumption as there is on the other side of the fence. Another convenience to the whole thing is that if it fell because of damage and whatnot.. Isn't it a tad convenient that it diddn't fall until he gave the order? Let me find a video of that building collapsing and you'll see what i'm talking about. Here is a compilation of various videos for the building in question:

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You can draw your own conclusions, again, everything in these video's is research able by any ulterior method that you may chose via the freedom of information act.. So if you think it's a sham you are welcome to do the investigating yourself. I honestly don't see that damage being significant enough to cause the building to fall, if you think about it, what are the odd's that all 3 buildings would be destroyed by such a primitive attack? Kamikaze planes... Go figure it was a success, and these guys couldn't even fly..

I have also commented on this so called "Progressive collapse" and if it was due to the weight alone the building would've taken much longer to fall due to the resistance of the floors below it.. If not able to support the weight they would have come down, yes, but not that quickly.. It would be an eventual process. If you take a look at failed demolitions you will see that the building will always take the path of least resistance, and in order for that path to be a straight down floor to floor direction, something would need to be "Helping" the process along and there would need to be some type of charges placed systematically that would destroy each floor before the proceeding one got to it. Only once the encumbrance reached between 50-70% of what the floors below could contain would the process excel in the downward manner that it did. This stuff is from my Cousin and his colleagues who all believe that it was planned ahead of time.

Take a look at how quickly the building falls and how it implodes on top of itself with no side to side movement at all: Also note the minimal, if any amount of damage to that portion of the building.

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That damage; coupled with the diesel-fed fire that burned for 7 hours caused the collapse of WTC 7
It certainly didn't look to be engulfed in flames as it collapsed like a normal implosion/demolition job.

Infact it was the first high rise building to ever collapse that was not totally engulfed in flames. And collapse in its own footprint at FREE FALL SPEED.
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How is what they "Believe" years later a fact? It's a little too late to go back now... I doubt that what's shown in the picture showed the building to fall in perfect line, but there is no sense in arguing over it really.. You will believe what you want to believe.

This is a classic good V. Evil story.. We have our bad guy, right? So who cares what the rest of the story is... It seems that's all we need, a good guy and a bad guy and naturally since we live in America we must be the good guy, right?

Those aren't facts. It's just as much assumption as there is on the other side of the fence.
When buildings collapse, they don't fall on their sides..........except in cartoons.
When ANYTHING falls, it ALWAYS falls straight down, unless it is acted upon by another object, or force.
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