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Hey Lib's, Did You Know The "Public Option" Would Be Managed By Private Company?

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The public-option debate is frustrating some Democrats, who have come to believe that a government-run plan is neither as radical as its conservative critics have portrayed, nor as important as its liberal supporters contend. Any public plan is likely to have a relatively narrow scope, as it would be offered only to people who don't have access to coverage through an employer.
The public option would effectively be just another insurance plan offered on the open market. It would likely be administered by a private insurance provider, charging premiums and copayments like any other policy. In an early estimate of the House bill, the Congressional Budget Office forecast that fewer than 12 million people would buy insurance through the government plan.
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Maybe we could name it Halliburton Health??
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The insurance companies win either way, they're not worried.

The house always wins.
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Ohh so you mean corrupt like the Federal Reserve is?

What a great idea! /sarcasm
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A "private" company operating as if it were merely either a branch of government, or drawing most of its income from said government, is hardly an honestly free-market entity, in my opinion anyway.
When some politician or bureaucrat uses the word "privatize" to basically hand a huge wad of cash to a politically-connected corporate insider, I tend to cringe a bit.
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A "private" company operating as if it were merely either a branch of government, or drawing most of its income from said government, is hardly an honestly free-market entity, in my opinion anyway.
When some politician or bureaucrat uses the word "privatize" to basically hand a huge wad of cash to a politically-connected corporate insider, I tend to cringe a bit.
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Maybe we could name it Halliburton Health??
yeah I read the bill... the public option is not medicare it is the government setting up an apples to apples mandate of comparable coverage so you can compare and buy insurance from private companies who will compete for your business...

but it is regulated... those companies choosing to offer services on the board have to follow government minimums... like no excluding for pre-existing conditions or exclusions for mental health disorders or having a heart-attack at 3:00 a.m. on a holiday weekend I never expected free healthcare... I plan on paying and probably through the nose... but not out the arse like now...

I'm currently on the hook for close to 17k annually before the insurance actually kicks in and starts paying off... which is basically saying I have no real coverage unless something long and catastrophic happens...

at which point I won't be working and be able to pay the following year because I'm very ill and off work with chemo treatments... then the insurance company will cancel me for non-payment without having to cover my actual loss.

as it is in america today... its like buying car insurance and having a wreck and its ok your covered... but if all the repairs aren't made prior to next months payment coming due... well so sad... for you... your cancelled and we know that happened while you "were" insured... but now your not... and we won't take you back because you have this pre-existing condition of a wrecked car... lmao.

pretty sad...
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yeah I read the bill... the public option is not medicare it is the government setting up an apples to apples mandate of comparable coverage so you can compare and buy insurance from private companies who will compete for your business...

but it is regulated... those companies choosing to offer services on the board have to follow government minimums... like no excluding for pre-existing conditions or exclusions for mental health disorders or having a heart-attack at 3:00 a.m. on a holiday weekend while being black...

I never expected free healthcare... I plan on paying and probably through the nose... but not out the arse like now...

I'm currently on the hook for close to 17k annually before the insurance actually kicks in and starts paying off... which is basically saying I have no real coverage unless something long and catastrophic happens...

at which point I won't be working and be able to pay the following year because I'm very ill and off work with chemo treatments... then the insurance company will cancel me for non-payment without having to cover my actual loss.

as it is in america today... its like buying car insurance and having a wreck and its ok your covered... but if all the repairs aren't made prior to next months payment coming due... well so sad... for you... your cancelled and we know that happened while you "were" insured... but now your not... and we won't take you back because you have this pre-existing condition of a wrecked car... lmao.

pretty sad...
To "mandate" individual choice is piss poor "regulate".
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I vote that they just ditch the entire idea and focus on other things. There is entirely too much time being wasted on this health care debate. Just drop it and pick it up another time, start fresh later. This debate has been going on for decades, and it hasn't went any better than this in the past, it probably won't now.. It's a great way to pin the American people against each other though, that's for sure.

I'd be willing to bet that most of Obama's "Market" community (Acorn, etc) are all about his "Something for FREE!" laws, but People like us can see through it. How much would yo usay our country is divided by it as a whole? I'm going to guess that about 1/3rd of the population is for it, and the rest don't mind working for what we get.. I don't want to depend on a government, I don't care if it's better than baught and paid for insurance, I don't want it, period. I can take care of myself, i'm not a child, and this isn't China.

There is a very long list of types of social behavior that comes between Democracy and Dictatorship, the very last step is Dependance.

There are hundreds of other problems and they are either too stupid to realize what ELSE is going on, or they just want to distract us. Frankly i'm sick of it.
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I vote that they just ditch the entire idea and focus on other things.
Maybe you should rethink that statement? Do you really want Oblahblah focused on ANYTHING else in this country. Think back to when the Clintons were in office. They (or she anyways) worked on the same for years. Kept the Clinton fingers out of the rest of the pie for years.
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Maybe you should rethink that statement? Do you really want Oblahblah focused on ANYTHING else in this country. Think back to when the Clintons were in office. They (or she anyways) worked on the same for years. Kept the Clinton fingers out of the rest of the pie for years.
This whole "health care(?)" fiasco is just "smoke and mirrors" to keep OUR attention away from their ulterior motive(s)...complete control. This "health care(?)" fiasco is just A tip of AN iceberg.

cap and trade...global warming...UN submission...apologist attitude...energy DEpendence...foriegn entity servitude...control of "the American TAX payer" without whom the world economy WILL collapse. "We" support the world with OUR "spending habits".

If and when "we" have nothing to spend who will "we" turn to? WHAT will we spend when the dollar has "0" value?

Money is "liberty". The less "we" have, the less liberty we have. Who has MOST of "our" money/liberty? Who robs US of our "private property',i.e. "labor/wages" for THEIR agenda?

WHO blatantly DISavows their "oath of office", protect(to secure), defend (to stand for) and preserve(NOT LET DIE) The Constitution?

Health care(?)...how much of OUR GDP does that entail?
"commerce and general welfare", of WHO?
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