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Texas-Nana · **^ Top** #31 3 Weeks Ago

He wasn't a christian he was agnostic. A person can be raised with pelicans but it doesn't mean he can fly and store fish in his bill. He refused the faith, the teachings and turned away from God.

sheesh do people even understand what being a Christian is or do they just think it's a label to slap on folks?

roadkill439342 · **^ Top** #32 3 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by rubbergearsnextyear

I stand by my statement idiot. A CHRISTIAN WOULDN'T DO THAT! What part of that do you not understand? If someone does something like that regardless of what they say they are, they are certainly not a CHRISTIAN.

The thing that 8433 doesn't seem to understand is the difference between a "man" (who happens to be Christian) killing; and a "man" (who happens to be a Muslim) killing BECAUSE OF and FOR his religion.

roadkill439342 · **^ Top** #33 3 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by Texas-Nana

He wasn't a christian he was agnostic. A person can be raised with pelicans but it doesn't mean he can fly and store fish in his bill. He refused the faith, the teachings and turned away from God.

sheesh do people even understand what being a Christian is or do they just think it's a label to slap on folks?

That would be like saying that I am a "Christian" because I (actually) studied the Bible for over 20 years, when I am actually now agnostic.

rubbergearsnextyear · **^ Top** #34 3 Weeks Ago

All I know is we are to know people by their fruits and murder is certainly not the fruit of a Christian (Christ man). Again, I said MURDER just to be clear. Our soldiers on the battlefield fighting and killing our enemies to protect us from MURDERERS, are NOT guilty of MURDER.

They are not guilty of any crime in the scriptures. They are protecting our freedom and our rights given to us by God himself. Those that seek to harm God's people, will get what's coming to them. We WIN!

Christians generally don't start war, but we damn sure finish em' as long as the politicians stay out of the way. I'm not judging people like Timothy, as that's not my job but I know that God is against murder any way you cut and slice it.

Texas-Nana · **^ Top** #35 3 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by roadkill439342

That would be like saying that I am a "Christian" because I (actually) studied the Bible for over 20 years, when I am actually now agnostic.

Exactly. Or saying I'm now an agnostic because I was before I became a Christian.

Eight433 · **^ Top** #36 3 Weeks Ago

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Originally Posted by roadkill439342

The thing that 8433 doesn't seem to understand is the difference between a "man" (who happens to be Christian) killing; and a "man" (who happens to be a Muslim) killing BECAUSE OF and FOR his religion.

ah, my point exactly. I suspect we as a country are guilty of lumping the extremists in with all the "regular Muslims" much the same as I have lumped all of the people listed who acted outside the limitations and expectations of their mainstream religions together.

Now I simply HAVE to get off this computer and do something with my day. Have a good one, folks!

Texas-Nana · **^ Top** #37 3 Weeks Ago

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ah, my point exactly. I suspect we as a country are guilty of lumping the extremists in with all the "regular Muslims" much the same as I have lumped all of the people listed who acted outside the limitations and expectations of their mainstream religions together.

Now I simply HAVE to get off this computer and do something with my day. Have a good one, folks!

Not me, I've always believed it to be muslim terrorists. I have always believed that there are "good" and "decent" muslims despite the fact their faith is indeed based on violence. But I refuse to deny that it was indeed fanatical muslims just to placate others. truth is truth.

roadkill439342 · **^ Top** #38 3 Weeks Ago

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True again. Seems I have argued myself into a corner with this example

Its been great talking with you guys, but I gotta get off to work. I'll check up on this later.

OH look! Here comes the childish name callers I mentioned! Never to disappoint, huh?

The only thing I meant by that, is that they probably WOULD have been called Christians if that is what the Media chose to focus on. But since roughly 78.4% of Americans call themselves Christians, they do not want to alienate their viewers. However, right now it is accepted to bash on Muslims, much the same as it was to bash the Japanese after WWII. But we do not go around calling them all dirty Japs now, because it is not PC anymore. Soon enough, this will pass and we will be on to hating the next religious agenda. How many of you can HONESTLY say you felt so strongly about the Islamic faith 10 years ago or so?

Sorry, I had to remove my thanks. I initially agreed with your first statement, was puzzled when you added the second one, but now totally disagree with your premise because of the "third" statement.

The difference being MUSLIMS "act" directly out of and FOR their faith. NO MUSLIMS stand up and say "that #### ain't right" when their members kill innocents (like Christians do).
That has NOTHING to do with "Muslim-Bashing".
IF Muslims stood up and excoriated their radicals, I would be here standing WITH you in your statement, but THEY AREN'T, and I CAN'T.

simplyred1962 · **^ Top** #39 3 Weeks Ago

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If you actually believe this, then you need to open your eyes and take a look around you. My first post demonstrated there are many deeply religious christian people that kill in the eyes of God, or believing that they were serving him in some way. They are not put in the media because they do not draw the attention like the suicide bombers do. Not to mention we do not lump every white bread american killer into the same group and put a label on them. Oklahoma city bombing, for instance. If ole Timmy was wearing a pope hat, would the outcome have been any different? No. He was crazy. Suicide bombers are crazy too, and not necessarily because he is wearing a turban.

Before 9/11, the "Christians" who were bombing pregnancy clinics that also performed abortions, were considered "domestic terrorists".

Post 9/11, these folks BARELY even make their LOCAL news..

They are no longer considered "domestic terrorists".

That label is now assigned to American-born, and naturalized foreign born United States citizens, who have vocalized, written, or in other ways, MADE IT CLEAR, that they want to destroy what is America.

Judi Kay

Texas-Nana · **^ Top** #40 3 Weeks Ago

As a Christian, as a Christian who is very VERY much against abortion I wish to go on record as saying that anyone who bombs an abortion clinic, who shoots an abortion doctor or kills anyone in the cause of preventing abortions is simply.............................a murderer.

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