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Politics Do Not Pass/Pass With Care. Today's truckers are far more educated and cognizant of the issues regarding politics due to the sharp increase in talk radio, and various trucking news media sources. Talk politics. Do truckers like politicians? More Political Sites: • Political Forum • Reform US Government •

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Ken Resident Couch Pilot   Member Since: Oct 2006 Location: Any Place But Here Trucker? 7 Years Posts: 6,177 My Trucking Photos: 0 Thanks: 2,988 Thanked: 3,484 Times

Quote: Originally Posted by rex I'll come right out and say it: In a modern utopian society proper health care SHOULD be considered a right for all citizens. The concept of medicine for profit is one which belongs in the dark ages. rx Every citizen has a right to pay for proper health care. I should also have the right not to have pay for yours.. __________________ There's a Village In Kenya Missing Its Idiot!

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truckermario Road Train Member   Last Seen: 5 Hours Ago 11.54 PM Member Since: Sep 2006 Age: 32 Posts: 3,471 My Trucking Photos: 0 Thanks: 1,498 Thanked: 981 Times

Once again, somebody comes up with the idea that a business should be run without making money. And where's the money for research and development going to come from? Who's going to pay the employees? What about expanding?

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roadkill439342 Truck Forum Supporter   Member Since: Jun 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Trucker? 15 Years Age: 54 Posts: 9,570 My Trucking Photos: 99 Thanks: 1,345 Thanked: 2,602 Times

Quote: Originally Posted by im6under nothing about roads, salt and snow plows either... : ) ROADS (highways etc) ARE covered under the "General Welfare" clause and covered under the Commerce Clause as well. 'ROADS" would be one of those "enumerated powers" the Constitution speaks about......"Health Care/Health Insurance" are not. Quote: Originally Posted by rex The concept of medicine for profit is one which belongs in the dark ages. rx I bet those Lib elite types that pay hundred's of thousands of dollars for cosmetic "medicine" would like to get their tummy-tucks "at cost". Quote: Originally Posted by Ken I don't mind if the gooberment takes an active role in disease prevention, but I don't think the rest of us should have to help pay for your appendectomy. That's not a public threat.. If the Government was serious about "disease prevention", they would have quarantined everyone diagnosed with HIV/AIDS and stopped the disease at our borders.......... Quote: Originally Posted by truckermario Once again, somebody comes up with the idea that a business should be run without making money. And where's the money for research and development going to come from? Who's going to pay the employees? What about expanding? It's not that they think a business should be runwith-out a profit, they think business should be run like the Government. __________________ Resistance Is Futile As the Statist is building a culture of conformity and dependency, where the ideal citizen takes on drone-like qualities in service to the state, the individual must be drained of uniqueness and self-worth and deterred from independent thought or behavior. This is acheived through varying methods of economic punishment and political suppression. Last edited by rookietrucker; 3 Weeks Ago at 06.40 PM.. Reason: merged four back to back posts

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goin2fast10 Road Train Member   Last Seen: 9 Hours Ago 07.45 PM Member Since: Dec 2007 Location: Austin, sometimes and sometimes somewhere else Trucker? 5 Years Age: 61 Posts: 5,255 My Trucking Photos: 8 Thanks: 5,457 Thanked: 2,020 Times

Quote: Originally Posted by rex I'll come right out and say it: In a modern utopian society proper health care SHOULD be considered a right for all citizens. The concept of medicine for profit is one which belongs in the dark ages. rx Rex...utopian society...Heaven? Proper health care? SHOULD be? You're smarter than that Rex...come on. "Citizens"? Legal or ILLeagal? What is "considered" to be "proper"? WHO decides THAT? The same fed gov't YOU have a disadain for in the use of the military? Someone on a CB? You? You suspect their motives for "war" yet INSIST "everyone" trust their "motive(s)" for taking control of at least 1/6 of OUR economy? How corrupt do you want them to be? Can YOU say INconsistent? __________________ No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders. Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, November 4, 1775

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Mooney Road Train Member   Member Since: Oct 2008 Location: Rapid City, South Dakota Trucker? No Posts: 8,347 My Trucking Photos: 0 Thanks: 27 Thanked: 3,854 Times

Quote: Originally Posted by rex I'll come right out and say it: In a modern utopian society proper health care SHOULD be considered a right for all citizens. The concept of medicine for profit is one which belongs in the dark ages. rx Luckily, we don't live in a Utopian society. Health care is a business. Health care is a service. People no more have a right to health care than they have a right to food or clothing or shelter. Does the "right" to health care also give me the "right" to have someone else pay for it? Let's say I need hip-replacement surgery that will cost $25,000 and that I don’t have the money to pay for it, but I have a "right" to health care, that means that I have a "right" to get the money from you to pay for my operation. It also means that you can’t say no because that would be interfering with my "right" to health care. So, we are going to give government the power to dip into some pockets to give others peoples money to people to get health care. The rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, from the Declaration of Independence, do not mean that someone else is forced to provide you with the means to improve your life. It means that government can't enact laws that interfere with or infringe upon your right to pursue such things. There is one solution to America’s health care problem, and it's not in a government takeover of health care. In fact, the solution is the exact opposite, It is the end of all government involvement in health care. __________________ Support The Special Operations Warrior Foundation Democrat Values: Jail for People Who Don't Buy Insurance, Citizenship for Border Jumpers Political Correctness Will Be The Death Of Us All Pray For Obama, Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take office."

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goin2fast10 Road Train Member   Last Seen: 9 Hours Ago 07.45 PM Member Since: Dec 2007 Location: Austin, sometimes and sometimes somewhere else Trucker? 5 Years Age: 61 Posts: 5,255 My Trucking Photos: 8 Thanks: 5,457 Thanked: 2,020 Times

You referenced The Declaration of Independence, I personally and publicly THANK YOU for the recognition...so many have forgotten, IF they ever knew or stopped to realize "Why we are"...yet claim to be educated. __________________ No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders. Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, November 4, 1775

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Jim Bob Medium Load Member   Member Since: Aug 2009 Location: Portland, Or Trucker? 7 Years Posts: 630 My Trucking Photos: 0 Thanks: 60 Thanked: 118 Times

Quote: Originally Posted by rex I'll come right out and say it: In a modern utopian society proper health care SHOULD be considered a right for all citizens. The concept of medicine for profit is one which belongs in the dark ages. rx Even in the dark ages, they weren't that cold. __________________ .

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Jim Bob Medium Load Member   Member Since: Aug 2009 Location: Portland, Or Trucker? 7 Years Posts: 630 My Trucking Photos: 0 Thanks: 60 Thanked: 118 Times

Quote: Originally Posted by Ken Every citizen has a right to pay for proper health care. I should also have the right not to have pay for yours.. Either way you are paying so that the more powerful Doctors, insurance CEO's and other assorted hangers-on can have Yachts, Mansions, Ferrari's, etc.....And we can all go die if we don't give it to them. __________________ .

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Hardlyevr Light Load Member   Last Seen: 7 Hours Ago 10.23 PM Member Since: Jul 2009 Location: Gettysburg,PA Trucker? 31 Years Age: 53 Posts: 294 My Trucking Photos: 0 Thanks: 20 Thanked: 105 Times

But we do have the RIGHT to bear arms, and I'm still waiting for my free government issue weapon. Once that happens I'll be happy to support socialized medicine. Of course I'll also be happy to make you a good deal on a bridge in Brooklyn.

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Mooney Road Train Member   Member Since: Oct 2008 Location: Rapid City, South Dakota Trucker? No Posts: 8,347 My Trucking Photos: 0 Thanks: 27 Thanked: 3,854 Times

Quote: Originally Posted by Jim Bob Either way you are paying so that the more powerful Doctors, insurance CEO's and other assorted hangers-on can have Yachts, Mansions, Ferrari's, etc.....And we can all go die if we don't give it to them. Class envy much? __________________ Support The Special Operations Warrior Foundation Democrat Values: Jail for People Who Don't Buy Insurance, Citizenship for Border Jumpers Political Correctness Will Be The Death Of Us All Pray For Obama, Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take office."

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