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Either way you are paying so that the more powerful Doctors, insurance CEO's and other assorted hangers-on can have Yachts, Mansions, Ferrari's, etc.....And we can all go die if we don't give it to them.
But I have the choice whether I pay for it it or not.. I'm not asking anyone to provide the service to me for free..

The doctor or insurance company tells me what it will cost, I either choose to accept their terms or not.

I'm not giving the government my money to make those decisions on my behalf and while their at it, pay for everyone elses medical bills too..
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Either way they will get their money. Either they will get all of their money now, or they will get even more money under Obamacare.

There are not winners or losers in this game. There is just winners and even bigger winners.
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Either way they will get their money. Either they will get all of their money now, or they will get even more money under Obamacare.

There are not winners or losers in this game. There is just winners and even bigger winners.
But right now we can choose to be in the game or not.. With Obamacare we play whether we want to or not..
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But I have the choice whether I pay for it it or not.. I'm not asking anyone to provide the service to me for free..

The doctor or insurance company tells me what it will cost, I either choose to accept their terms or not.

I'm not giving the government my money to make those decisions on my behalf and while their at it, pay for everyone elses medical bills too..
Pay them now, or pay them later, you're still gonna pay when they got you over a barrel.

Personally, I think the government should institute profit controls in the health industry, but don't expect that to ever happen....LOL, it would make too much sense. I mean, come on, a ten dollar tongue depressor? How much of that ten bucks is pure profit?
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Pay them now, or pay them later, you're still gonna pay when they got you over a barrel.

Personally, I think the government should institute profit controls in the health industry, but don't expect that to ever happen....LOL, it would make too much sense. I mean, come on, a ten dollar tongue depressor? How much of that ten bucks is pure profit?
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How can you say that? If I don't want to pay, I just don't get treated.. Under ObamaCare, I have no choice whether I pay or not. Actually I'll get penalized if I don't cover myself..

I want nothing for free.. If it's of value in my opinion, I'll pay for it. If not I won't.. I don't want that choice taken away from me.. And being the selfish SOB that I am, I don't want to contribute to the Collective so everyone can have free medical coverage..

What's the next right we'll give out? Two weeks paid vacation for everyone and a swimming pool in every backyard?
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Pay them now, or pay them later, you're still gonna pay when they got you over a barrel.

Personally, I think the government should institute profit controls in the health industry, but don't expect that to ever happen....LOL, it would make too much sense. I mean, come on, a ten dollar tongue depressor? How much of that ten bucks is pure profit?
Nobody ever died from a case of bankruptcy.
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I'll come right out and say it: In a modern utopian society proper health care SHOULD be considered a right for all citizens.

The concept of medicine for profit is one which belongs in the dark ages.
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Should be a right? Even if they're here illegally? Why should I as a taxpayer be on the hook for everyone else's healthcare? Sorry but if you think health care should be a right for everyone go to Great Britain and look at their system. A system that includes a review board which has:

Denied women life saving drugs for breast cancer
Denied any emergency care for a prematurely born baby. Mom got to hold her baby and watch the baby die because the government told her doctors it would be cost prohibitive to save the child
Denied people from getting new researched and proven drugs that could prevent glacoma(spelling?) from the first detection. Instead the review board actually stated that the person would have to go blind in one eye and THEN they could try and save the other eye.

You want something like that because you claim health care is a right? Have at it bud, I want nothing to do with a system like that.
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Pay them now, or pay them later, you're still gonna pay when they got you over a barrel.

Personally, I think the government should institute profit controls in the health industry, but don't expect that to ever happen....LOL, it would make too much sense. I mean, come on, a ten dollar tongue depressor? How much of that ten bucks is pure profit?
Yes and we saw how well controls worked when Hawaii instituted price controls on gas a few years ago. The cost of everything else went sky high. Just like an industry you enact profit controls, they will pass that cost onto the consumer. Hence, we're right back to square one.
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Nobody ever died from a case of bankruptcy.
Non-payment of debt [bankruptcy] just ends up being written off through taxes or passed directly to those who pay out of their pocket or through their own insurance coverage. Either way, you're still paying for someone else's health care.

In a sane system, profits would be controlled. In Obamacare or the way things are now, profit is uncontrolled or even slightly regulated and that is the way the business class who own this country wants it.
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A lot of talk about the greedy evil doctors, but if you go under the knife, better hope he's not grumpy because he didn't get paid.

Twenty four hour shifts. Heavy medical school debt after graduation. The threat of lawsuits always looming. Who's to say what a doctor is worth?
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