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Politics Do Not Pass/Pass With Care. Today's truckers are far more educated and cognizant of the issues regarding politics due to the sharp increase in talk radio, and various trucking news media sources. Talk politics. Do truckers like politicians? More Political Sites: • Political Forum • Reform US Government •

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goin2fast10 Road Train Member   Last Seen: 9 Hours Ago 07.45 PM Member Since: Dec 2007 Location: Austin, sometimes and sometimes somewhere else Trucker? 5 Years Age: 61 Posts: 5,255 My Trucking Photos: 8 Thanks: 5,457 Thanked: 2,020 Times

Quote: Originally Posted by rex "Our own oil"? Let's go over this one more time... There is no such thing as "our own oil" Remember; as we have learned from previous discussions about this, crude oil belongs to whomever has invested the time, trouble, and money to extract it from the earth. After payment of what are called "royalties" to either the government or private landowner the oil is bought, sold, and traded on the WORLD MARKET just like PRIVATE property because that's exactly what it is. It is no more "our oil" than it is the man on the moon's oil. Just curious though- why do you find importing oil from Canada and Mexico to be so abhorent? rx I find being "told" ANYTHING by ANYONE who LIES for a living abhorent. So, let me be MORE clear...putting MORE resources available on THE WORLD MARKET from with-in the borders of these United States...though we know the demogogue marxist CONTROLLING the demosocialists "party" would be proven (publicly) to be LIARS with their non-sensical BS and made to "feel" bad in their lame attempt to use psuedo intellectual phony science for a "cause" as PHONY as they are! There. Do YOU "feel" better? __________________ No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders. Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, November 4, 1775

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kajidono Road Train Member   Last Seen: 6 Hours Ago 10.49 PM Member Since: Jun 2009 Location: Dirty flat top Trucker? 3 Years Age: 33 Posts: 2,801 My Trucking Photos: 0 Thanks: 713 Thanked: 605 Times

Quote: Originally Posted by rex "Our own oil"? Let's go over this one more time... There is no such thing as "our own oil" Remember; as we have learned from previous discussions about this, crude oil belongs to whomever has invested the time, trouble, and money to extract it from the earth. After payment of what are called "royalties" to either the government or private landowner the oil is bought, sold, and traded on the WORLD MARKET just like PRIVATE property because that's exactly what it is. It is no more "our oil" than it is the man on the moon's oil. Just curious though- why do you find importing oil from Canada and Mexico to be so abhorent? rx You do know that most of the world doesn't like us because we take the lion's share of resources, such as oil, off the world market for ourselves (by buying them.) __________________ The best way to rob a bank is to own one. Last edited by kajidono; 2 Weeks Ago at 04.23 PM..

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Mooney Road Train Member   Member Since: Oct 2008 Location: Rapid City, South Dakota Trucker? No Posts: 8,347 My Trucking Photos: 0 Thanks: 27 Thanked: 3,854 Times

Quote: Originally Posted by rex Did you even bother to read this entire article? Your figures compare our country's known and estiated total reserves of ALL hydrocarbon resource with other country's Proven oil aand natural gas reserves alone. I'm not sure why you would post something so blatantly misleading, unless of course you never even read it beyond the table of contents. rx [IMG]file:///C:/Users/rex/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-2.jpg[/IMG]Source: Historical production and proved reserves figures are from Energy Information Administration, undiscovered technically recoverable resource value is from U.S. Geological Survey, and discovered and undiscovered sub-economic resources uses the lower estimate for oil shale resources from RAND as a minimum. Notes: Di Proven wrong again huh Rex? You getting tired of that yet? __________________ Support The Special Operations Warrior Foundation Democrat Values: Jail for People Who Don't Buy Insurance, Citizenship for Border Jumpers Political Correctness Will Be The Death Of Us All Pray For Obama, Psalm 109:8 "Let his days be few; and let another take office."

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equipop60 Light Load Member   Last Seen: 57 Minutes Ago 03.56 AM Member Since: Oct 2007 Location: northern cal Trucker? 4-Wheeler Age: 64 Posts: 226 My Trucking Photos: 0 Thanks: 0 Thanked: 76 Times

blame it on pelosi? Not a pelosi fan however she's only been in power a short period of time. The discussion about energy resource shortages started around the time of the first oil embargo -1973. A lot of republican and democrats in charge since then and nothing was done.

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Quote: Originally Posted by equipop60 Not a pelosi fan however she's only been in power a short period of time. The discussion about energy resource shortages started around the time of the first oil embargo -1973. A lot of republican and democrats in charge since then and nothing was done. There isn't alot you CAN do when you have a group of neo-Marxists masquerading as Environmentalists forcing their anti-Capitalist agenda down our throats with one law after another. __________________ Resistance Is Futile As the Statist is building a culture of conformity and dependency, where the ideal citizen takes on drone-like qualities in service to the state, the individual must be drained of uniqueness and self-worth and deterred from independent thought or behavior. This is acheived through varying methods of economic punishment and political suppression.

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Working Class Patriot "In Tune"   Last Seen: 3 Hours Ago 12.58 AM Member Since: Jan 2008 Location: Parked in front of Mary Nichols' house....Idling like there's no tomorrow.... Trucker? Trucking Industry Posts: 15,918 My Trucking Photos: 0 Thanks: 6,630 Thanked: 4,979 Times

Quote: Originally Posted by equipop60 Not a pelosi fan however she's only been in power a short period of time. The discussion about energy resource shortages started around the time of the first oil embargo -1973. A lot of republican and democrats in charge since then and nothing was done. But Pelosi is dead set against drilling...she has 1969 Santa Barbara on her mind.... We could have cheap fuel.....but then again liberals would raise the fuel taxes even higher... California will raise diesel tax another $18.... Remember the George Harrison song Taxman? Who knew that the song was prophetic......not only for socialistic Europe...but Now a socialistic United States..... __________________ A Patriot's Dream Come True.......Beauty, Brains, And Conservative...... Obama and Company: Step aside and let the adults take Charge.......Playtime is over.....

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rex Road Train Member   Last Seen: 5 Hours Ago 11.09 PM Member Since: Jan 2007 Location: Colorado Trucker? Trucking Industry Age: 55 Posts: 2,899 My Trucking Photos: 0 Thanks: 1,574 Thanked: 325 Times

Quote: Originally Posted by Working Class Patriot We could have cheap fuel.....but then again liberals would raise the fuel taxes even higher... Just curious- how cheap do you think fuel would become if suddenly oil companies began drilling and pumping all known oil deposits off the coast of California, assuming taxes would remain exactly the same? When is the last time that the state of California raised fuel taxes? rx __________________ "Load the wagon boys, the mule's blind" Smokey Yunick "Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation and I care not who makes it's laws" Mayer Amschel Rothschild

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goin2fast10 Road Train Member   Last Seen: 9 Hours Ago 07.45 PM Member Since: Dec 2007 Location: Austin, sometimes and sometimes somewhere else Trucker? 5 Years Age: 61 Posts: 5,255 My Trucking Photos: 8 Thanks: 5,457 Thanked: 2,020 Times

Quote: Originally Posted by rex Just curious- how cheap do you think fuel would become if suddenly oil companies began drilling and pumping all known oil deposits off the coast of California, assuming taxes would remain exactly the same? When is the last time that the state of California raised fuel taxes? rx This is TOTALLY irrelevant. The demogogue marxists insist THEY WANT ENERGY INDEPENDENCEand then do everything in their ILLperceived power to insure CO-dependence. Paying $1000.00/pint would NOT change THE LIE of PSUEDO SCIENCE used BY marxist party loyalist in OR out of the gov't. CO-dependent FREAKS cannot stand the thought that ANYONE should be Independent of anything because it would render them IRRELEVANT as well as their "cause". __________________ No people will tamely surrender their Liberties, nor can any be easily subdued, when knowledge is diffused and Virtue is preserved. On the Contrary, when People are universally ignorant, and debauched in their Manners, they will sink under their own weight without the Aid of foreign Invaders. Samuel Adams, letter to James Warren, November 4, 1775

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kajidono Road Train Member   Last Seen: 6 Hours Ago 10.49 PM Member Since: Jun 2009 Location: Dirty flat top Trucker? 3 Years Age: 33 Posts: 2,801 My Trucking Photos: 0 Thanks: 713 Thanked: 605 Times

Quote: Originally Posted by rex Just curious- how cheap do you think fuel would become if suddenly oil companies began drilling and pumping all known oil deposits off the coast of California, assuming taxes would remain exactly the same? When is the last time that the state of California raised fuel taxes? rx You're curious about questions you've already asked, word for word? __________________ The best way to rob a bank is to own one.

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Working Class Patriot "In Tune"   Last Seen: 3 Hours Ago 12.58 AM Member Since: Jan 2008 Location: Parked in front of Mary Nichols' house....Idling like there's no tomorrow.... Trucker? Trucking Industry Posts: 15,918 My Trucking Photos: 0 Thanks: 6,630 Thanked: 4,979 Times

Quote: Originally Posted by rex Just curious- how cheap do you think fuel would become if suddenly oil companies began drilling and pumping all known oil deposits off the coast of California, assuming taxes would remain exactly the same? Taxes wouldn't remain the same....The CA legislature has been Gerrymandered to a liberal majority whose agenda historically raised taxes on fuel when the economy was in a recession to recoup for the shortfall of revenue... Quote: When is the last time that the state of California raised fuel taxes? rx That answer will require more research... The State Board of Equalization doesn't have readily accessible info on the history of revenue enhancement.... Tell you what Rex... Say you engineer a vehicle that could get 100 MPG and fuel went to even $10/g..... The CA liberal political machine sensing a deficit perceived or real, would raise the taxes to equate with today's operational costs for the average motorist... or more..... Remember...driving in the state is a privilege unless you're an Illegal alien or you're a liberal politician...Then it's a right granted by the liberal legislature.... __________________ A Patriot's Dream Come True.......Beauty, Brains, And Conservative...... Obama and Company: Step aside and let the adults take Charge.......Playtime is over.....

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