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    Quote Originally Posted by U2Exit View Post
    Company drivers go wherever the load you are dispatched on goes. There is no choice. If you want to turn down loads you go Lease.
    If you want to turn down loads, plan on being poor - unless you have a darn good reason. Yesterday's fixed cost from a turned-down load has to be paid from today's preferred gross income - along with today's fixed cost.

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    COOL that is what I was always told do not turn down load and you will make $$$$

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    Quote Originally Posted by 01blackz28 View Post
    I have a few questions being that I upgrade next week in pittston. What HP rating is the dd13 and dd15 in these trucks ?probably looking to go lightweight for the extra pay. Is it possible to go right into the ne division? Or would you not recommend that?
    DD13, I dunno. DD15 is supposed to be 515hp. Torque is (I believe) 1350. However. (Isn't there always one of these?) Prime does not gear their trucks the same way Swift does. They have a different rear end. Therefore, climbing is not going to go quite the way you would hope.

    Since all of their trucks are neutered, you will never, ever see the horsepower potential in those motors. Horsepower is speed. Torque is pulling power. You should be concerning yourself more with torque than raw horsepower.

    The Cascadia I had over there was 515 hp Series60 Detroit. I was governed at 72mph. It could cruise that speed all day long. As soon as it saw a hill, though, it would get stage fright. That thing really bit going up hills. The gearing was wrong for climbing.

    The truck I have now is a ProStar with 435 Cummins ISX. And can outclimb any Prime truck, all other factors being equal. It is geared for hills. And governed at 68mph.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Injun View Post
    The truck I have now is a ProStar with 435 Cummins ISX. And can outclimb any Prime truck, all other factors being equal. It is geared for hills. And governed at 68mph.
    Come on, lets be serious....

    Every truck can outclimb a Prime truck... the only way we are beating anyone up a hill is if we are empty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Injun View Post
    DD13, I dunno. DD15 is supposed to be 515hp. Torque is (I believe) 1350. However. (Isn't there always one of these?) Prime does not gear their trucks the same way Swift does. They have a different rear end. Therefore, climbing is not going to go quite the way you would hope.
    I realize that torque is climbing power. But when referring to a motor it is horsepower which most commonly used as a power factor. I always hear guys saying oh thats a 550 cat or signature 600 cummins. For example the dd15 can be rated anywhere from 455-560 (1550-1850 ft/lb tq). If the motor is rated at 455 hp its 1550 ft/lb tq correct? I'm just curious what the dd13 and isx is rated in the lightweight trucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U2Exit View Post
    Come on, lets be serious....

    Every truck can outclimb a Prime truck... the only way we are beating anyone up a hill is if we are empty.
    Prime trucks are geared just fine for a cruising speed of 55 mph - you want the engine RPM in the sweet spot at cruise - about 1200 RPM on a Detroit. Hill climbing comes from torque - and you know our trucks are turned down, plus we're usually sitting at 75 to 79,000 lbs. Yup, if we were running down the road with 20,000 lbs in the box and the engine turned up, we'd be out-climbing everyone too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U2Exit View Post
    Come on, lets be serious....

    Every truck can outclimb a Prime truck... the only way we are beating anyone up a hill is if we are empty.
    Trainers truck is a 08 Freight governed at 62, I was passing trucks left and right while driving through the mountains in Pa.
    56k gross weight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U2Exit View Post
    Here are the numbers I was given by payroll about a year ago. I have two charts but I am only going to post the one for drivers that have started after Sept. 2009.

    Mileage followed by Solo then Team rate. These are the base pay rates and do not include any other bonus pay where qualified. Pay chart doesnt go past 1.7 million miles. I'm only going to post up to 1.1m.

    Training miles (team) are counted toward the total.

    Less than 80,000 - .300 solo - .360 team
    80,000 - .330 - .390
    120,000 - .340 - .395
    180,000 - .345 - .400
    250,000 - .350 - .405
    320,000 - .355 - .410
    430,000 - .360 - .415
    570,000 - .365 - .425
    720,000 - .370 - .430
    840,000 - .375 - .440
    975,000 - .380
    1,100,00 - .385

    Fuel bonus .001 to .04 per miles based on MPG calculated between Fridays of the previous week. (teams split fuel bonus) new company minimum is now 7.0 mpg. The old scale still applies starting from 6.75, however the bonus isn't paid below 7 anymore.

    Team bonus .10 per mile split for all miles over 3500 on loads completed between Fridays of the previous week

    .05 per mile for solos in lightweight single sleeper trucks
    .05 per mile for solos assigned to Northeast Regional Fleets (must be on a NE regional FLEET and live in NE. OTR solos on NE loads do not qualify on a trip by trip basis)

    I've seem to lost the exact figure, but vacations are 120,000 miles or 125,000. Calculated from upgrade to A seat. This means training miles are NOT included.

    1 week paid a flat $500. After 5 years 2 weeks at $550 a piece.

    IP claims a week is only 5 days. A week is 7 days in my book and I've always taken 7 days, twice now. I'm up to my third vacation next week and I while discussing my plans with my FM a few months ago, he said i could combine my 4 day home time with 7 days vacation. So the 2 day home time plus 5 day "week vacation" argument doesn't fly in my experience.

    This is all based on the info I haven been given in the past. If someone knows of a change that I haven't been aware of, feel free to step in and correct.
    Is that miles run with Prime or do previous miles run with another carrier count?

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    Only miles with Prime. However, considering your previous experience you wouldn't be starting at the bottom of the payscale. You need to call recruiting and inquire how this would affect where you start at.

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    So I was wondering how it was training and working with prime. I've heard horror stories about England and several others. I'm in a pinch financially and I like the fact that prime will pay for training, but I'm a little leary about signing a contract since most of the companies that do that couldn't care less about drivers and their only concern is recruiting "fresh meat".
    Can anyone give me insight into working for them?

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