New to Prime INC - What to expect (Springfield edition)

Discussion in 'Prime' started by silenteagle, Dec 6, 2012.

  1. Highway101

    Highway101 Road Train Member

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    DO NOT get your HazMat endorsement prior togetting your CDL, it will not transfer over as you will be getting you CDL in MO.

    Also while it is not "required" it is a good idea to get it after you get your license as you could/will get loads when others who do not have the endorsement are sitting waiting on a load.
     
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  3. Highway101

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    Yes, you contact your FM (Fleet Manager) ASAP and discuss the situtation with him. Keep in mind you must provide proof, and not "I feel he sucks and drives like crap". Burden of proof is on you. QC stands for QualCom. I don't understand the statement about "Security" so I won't answer.
     
  4. urgefan77

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    I live in MO, so I assume it would be a good idea to go ahead & get it? I assume it's just the written test & finger prints, background check etc?
    Is it ok if I inbox questions to you about your training experiences with Prime?
    BTW great name, I grew up along Highway 101 in Salinas CA.
     
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  5. ironpony

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    That depends on your trainer, you and freight. It's up to you and your trainer to arrange it. You could be paired with a jerk who won't cooperate, otherwise as long as you can find the loads to do it you'll get home - and picked up afterward. If you choose to stay with your trainer while he takes a break, then what happens again depends on you and your trainer - he may choose to pay for a room for you, which is what many of us consider is right.

    There aren't hard and fast rules on this as far as I know. It's been awhile since I was in the training environment - perhaps SE can enlighten us on any changes. However, if you're not physically on the truck, you're not available for dispatch... and you won't be paid for those days. That is a rule. That doesn't mean you can't get out, and do whatever you like, but going home or staying in a room may cost you.

    Security: If you cause a ruckus, get caught stealing someone's property, are visibly intoxicated (confirmed by a drug and alcohol test if necessary) our security department will deal with it - and you. They are there, low key, and quite capable of dealing with "problems" if you make yourself one. Plan on finding your own way home if you become a problem. Just be on your best behavior, and you won't have a problem.

    Cargo and vehicle theft is a problem for all carriers, and it's our security departments job to deal with it. We have trailers on the property loaded with thousands and sometimes millions of dollars of property, sometimes hazardous freight belonging to our clients. It must be safeguarded along with Prime's real property and vehicles as well.

    There are electronically locked exterior doors at Prime that are opened with our ID cards, but there isn't bullet-proof glass and it's generally an open environment - unlike many other carriers. The locks and security are there to make sure we're all safe. We have a day-care facility on site for the very young kids... there are children and families visiting the facilities as well as truck drivers, dispatchers, mechanics, operations folks, trainees and management. You should dress reasonably in clean clothes suitable for a casual business environment, and act accordingly.
     
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  6. silenteagle

    silenteagle Road Train Member

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    TnT – Trainer n Trainee – This is Prime’s mentoring program (other carriers call it mentoring) or training program that pairs a new hire up with a trainer that will take them out for up to 60,000 miles to show them the ropes of OTR driving, interacting with customers and dealing with the perils and pitfalls of driving the lower 48 states.
    At this point you will be assigned a TnT Trainer and a new Fleet Manager (whoever the Trainer’s FM is, that’s your FM) You will be living with the trainer for up to 3 months, so there will be an interview sort of meeting where you and the trainer will talk. Be sure that at this point if there is some animosity or bad vibes with this person you talk about it now. It’s better to address this now and ask for a different Trainer than half way through your training. A good TnT Trainer will be sure to ask you pointed questions about your preferences to ensure a good personality/social fit takes place. He doesn’t want to have to deal with drama on the road either.

    Once you get situated with your Trainer, be sure that you find out what the rules of his/her truck are. Each driver has their own idea of rules on the truck. It’s better to understand these rules up front than to find out the hard way by ticking him/her off.

    During this phase you will be driving with your trainer as a team. This means that you will be driving unsupervised most of the time, with your trainer behind you trying to sleep to support you. It is very hard to sleep behind a brand new greenhorn, so don’t ##### about the money he/she is making. They are taking a HUGE risk having you drive their truck and deserve the reward of a better paycheck. Don’t become a lazy steering wheel holder either. So many newbies just want to drive, and often refuse to learn the other tasks associated with driving OTR. When you upgrade, you will be clueless if you don’t learn those other tasks. You will be required to do just about every task a driver does on the truck. Some major tasks you will learn will be:
    Driving (continued from PSD)
    Hooking/Unhooking trailers (if you didn’t during PSD)
    Using the Qualcomm for load information & HOS management.
    Fueling procedures and best fueling practices
    Interacting with shippers & receivers
    Bill of Lading paperwork and trip sheet submission
    The real way to back, park, maneuver in a truck stop / shipper / receiver / city / highway
    Trip Planning, Yea, using that map/atlas thingy to figure out where to go.
    How to drive in all weather.

    As for the pay. You are guaranteed $600 per week minimum, or $0.12 per mile over 5000 miles dispatched for that week. The miles are not split between you and your trainer, but are cumulative. You get paid for the dispatched miles for the truck, not just the miles you drive. (you get to count the miles your trainer drives as well.) Remember, this is your pay BEFORE TAXES and other deductions such as the $25 per week for your $200 loans during PSD, $55 per week for CPAP, and other deductions such as child support/alimony.
     
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  7. silenteagle

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    Hometime during training - Prime usually tries to pair you up with someone with similar personailities, backgrounds, and home location. For Example, I would be looking for a non-smoker who lives near Springfield, Missouri (my home) who likes country music, hunting, fishing, and keeps clean. PRIME INC WILL NOT ALLOW MALE TRAINERS TRAIN FEMALE TRAINEES (unless you are family members) Prime INC will also pair smokers with smokers, and non-smokers with non-smokers. If you are a non-smoker and say you will train with a smoker, don't whine later about his smoking habit. I will not take a smoker on my truck unless he is willing to give it up and chew the gum or something like that. (Remember, the truck is my home away from home)

    Now about that hometime... When the trainer goes home, you have a couple choices. You can go home if it is close to his home, or you can stay on the truck or in a hotel at the trainers (or company) expense. If you stay on the truck, you should have access to showers & restaurants and stuff. If you go home, you might be waiting a bit longer to get back on the road, as the trainer has to get a load past your house.

    Your pay during hometime will stop. The $600 guarantee is only if you stay on the truck or are available for dispatch for the seven consecutive days of the week. Your pay for the days available will be paid at $0.12 per mile that you drive for that week. Example: If I went home to SpriMo for hometime, I would put the student in the hotel at the Campus Inn and go home. (I park at the terminal) There the student would still be available for dispatch and receive the $600 guarantee.
     
  8. silenteagle

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    HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO FINISH TRAINING?

    Your PSD training should take no more than 4 weeks. PSD Instructors are discouraged from taking hometime during the PSD process, and with exception should be disclosed before you are paired with that Instructor. It should take about 3 weeks to get 75 hours of driving time (the MINIMUM) but it is up to the instructor to decide whether you are progressing and are ready to test.

    TnT Training has 3 levels:

    D seat - This is where the students that have participated in the PSD program start. They get the $600 guarantee and have to do a minimum of 30,000 miles. This can be increased up to 60,000 miles if you have dificulties or safety incidents during training.

    C seat - This is where you start if you got your CDL from somewhere else, but have no OTR experience. You get $500 per week for the first 10,000 miles and are moved up to $600 per week for the remainder of your 40,000 miles. This can be increased up to 60,000 miles if you have dificulties or safety incidents during training.

    B2 seat - This is where you start if you have OTR experience, but not enough to start driving your own truck. Often this is a short stint to learn the Prime process, or if you never hauled the freight you are hauling at Prime. IE You were a dry van hauler coming to prime to pull reefers or flatbeds. (more at the end)

    B1 seat - This is where you are considered when you come from the C Seat and have your 10,000 miles. You are now a B1 seat and need to finish your 30,000 miles.

    Upgrading... You are ready to upgrade when you meet the minimum mileage for your situation, as well as the trainers and fleet managers endorsements. In other words, the trainer and the fleet manager have to both agree that you are ready to upgrade. Safety incidents will be considered and the Safety dept might require a set number of miles additional to your minimum requirements.

    Experienced CDL holders might have to go through some training if they are crossing from one type of freight to one of prime's divisions. If you have never hauled reefer, you might have to go out for a couple weeks. If you never hauled flatbed you might be required to go out on a flatbed for a while and you are required to have the securement class.

    The tanker division usually requires 1 year OTR experience before pulling tankers for Prime. There is a class that you must attend before pulling tankers, as well as having your tanker endorsement. We pull food grade tanks that are smooth bore, which are generally more dangerous to haul.
     
  9. winkstem

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    I start next week at prime. I just hope i get a good trainer
     
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  10. Backwater13

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    I wish you all the luck winkstem. I'm pulling for you bro.

    I'm thinking that just you being here on the forum and doing your legwork and research, you're putting yourself at an advantage by showing initiative. At the end of the day, I guess like alot of things in life we'll have to ask ourselves honestly, "Did I do all I could to prepare and set myself up for the greatest possible chance of success?" That's all I think I can do.

    If I was a trainer, I would be looking for the guys who are taking initiative because that would be one of the guys who is preparing for the adjustments and challenges that need to be met and overcome and that could last the longest to make me the most money as a trainer. From what I understand, the longest we last with PRIME, the more money we help earn our trainers which is a good thing.

    I want to make my trainer as much money as I can during the time we're together because I want it to be a positive experience for both of us. I also want to benefit during the process as well. When I shake hands with my trainer I want to know he will be watching my back and that I will be watching his back. Trust is very important to me and I tend to be a very faithful and loyal person when I trust someone, but through experience I've learned not to automatically trust anyone. Theirs many liars and snakes in the world as we well know and I suspect trucking aint' no different. Trust is earned and I intend to earn the trust of my trainer. If I don't think I can trust the man in the same cab with me, then there will be a problem and it will be addressed and I expect the same from him. The only thing I want is to be treated professionally and to be trained so I can become a professional trucker like they are. The experience of driving OTR is an investment into my future as well as a means to an end of paying some bills that don't pay themselves, I keep reminding myself. And no, it will not be easy.

    I'm hoping that by getting my CDL permit before getting to SpringMo and then being able to spend some early time on the pad will help me to hopefully meet some different trainers that are wanting to ######## a little, get to know each other and then team up so we can hit the road and earn our bread. I hope someone will be looking for a non smoker who cares about his hygiene, health and safety, is professional, honest and trustworthy and likes to fish and play guitar. I'm going to miss fishing and playing my guitar but fortunately I love to listen to music and I'm an avid reader and enjoy writing in my spare time.

    Ultimately though, I guess no matter what we do, we could get a less than par trainer. If so, we move to plan B, which for me is to give it a shot for a week or two and if it doesn't go well, hopefully get routed back to SpringMo by my FM and discuss in documented detail the reason for my request in asking for another trainer that will help us to make them the money they are looking for while helping us to learn the ropes the right way, the first time, in the shortest amount of time.

    Take care and keep us updated, time permitting of course. Message boards can suck you in pretty quick. I know they do that to me sometimes. I'm out for now.
     
  11. Easy Steamer

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    TNT, "two nuts and a truck"
     
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