What is the downside?

Discussion in 'Prime' started by CuriousG, Oct 9, 2014.

  1. CuriousG

    CuriousG Bobtail Member

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    Hey All,

    I have been considering truck driving and have gathered a fair bit of information on what it takes up to this point. It seems to be that if a person takes the time to educate themselves, take some real stock of themselves as a person you can get a good idea if this career / lifestyle is for you before you ever commit to a company or the industry. I have done these things and feel that I am the right kind of person for this job. During my time researching I looked at a number of mega carriers and had resigned myself to very low pay, disrespect from the company I worked for and a number of other negatives.

    Now I happen upon Prime and start to see that there are better options out there. Why would anyone not apply to Prime, why would people go with a company with low pay, no APU, and a number of other problems?

    From what I have read so far:

    Prime pays good right out of the gate (still looking for an official pay schedule).
    Prime trucks have an APU in all company trucks.
    Prime training is more comprehensive.
    Prime routing and dispatch is better than almost every other company.
    Solo Drivers are given a Lightweight truck with limited space, but many drivers have creative ways to maximize that space.

    Overall the statements above are the key points I have picked up and may or may not be 100% true. I just gotta wonder other than a smaller cab and hitting a 7 mpg goal is there anything else a rookie should be on the lookout for going in? I have read very far into several of the longer threads on here and so far I don't see any reason to apply at another company.

    Cheers,
    G
     
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  3. fuzzeymateo

    fuzzeymateo Heavy Load Member

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    How about the part where you criss-cross the country at 50MPH. Was that included in the Prime spiel? I can't speak directly for Prime because I have never nor will I ever drive for them; however, the incredibly slow speeds I see everyday. Your pitch sounds right out of the Prime recruiter's mouth and to tell you the truth I don't blame you. I few years ago I worked as a CDL instructor at a mill. We would get recruiters in from all the mega carriers to talk to the students and by the end of their spiel they almost had me believing! They all act like they really care about their drivers but that is not true. They care about their profits and the more students they cycle in and out of the driver's seat the more government grant money they get. Look at the turnover rate for Prime and any other mega carriers, there's a reason for it. I'm sure there are worse carriers than Prime and I know I'm going to get beat down by all the Prime faithfuls for writing this but I really don't care. The entire trucking industry is a scam. If you are smart enough to weed your way through the BS and have a good work ethic then yes, you can make money. Do your research, there are other better companies you could start with. Go about it the right way, go through a community college to get your license.
     
  4. Night Prowler

    Night Prowler Medium Load Member

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  5. 77smartin

    77smartin Road Train Member

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    The downside is that it isn't like you think it will be.
     
  6. Sik_Life

    Sik_Life Medium Load Member

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    It's team training. That's a downside imo. How much are you learning while you drive and trainer sleeps or you sleep and trainer drives?
     
  7. CuriousG

    CuriousG Bobtail Member

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    @ Night Prowler: Raven looks good too but I am in the Pacific Northwest so on first blush they may not work out. I am currently researching what I think is called "shipping lanes" or "fright lanes". Basically learning the most active places to be to pick up and deliver the most loads, and how my home location impacts my ability to keep the wheels turning.

    @ 77smartin: No job or career ever is what you think it will be. From my research I know that with any company being proactive about getting your next load and trip planning will be key.

    @ Sik_Life: from what I read most companies are the same with that. It all depends on your trainer / mentor and if they just want the free miles or if they are genuinely interested in teaching. That will be on me to deal with and again be proactive about. If my mentor is not getting it done I would need to be an adult and work with them. If it's not working then I gather evidence and switch mentors. Keeping my best interests addressed is my job and my job alone.

    Cheers,
    G
     
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  8. 88 Alpha

    88 Alpha Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Your facts need checking, so I will enlighten you:

    1) Although Raven has lowered their standards to "scum of the earth" quality, even those "scum of the earth" must have some experience before being hired by Raven. Granted, it doesn't take much experience to qualify, but you will need to get your training somewhere else.

    2) "Full size trucks volvos and internationals". Completely false information you are putting forth with this. They have 2, count them, TWO full size Volvos. One is a 770, the other is a 780. All of the remaining Volvos are 670. That sure as heck is not a "full size truck". Their Internationals are all mid-roof trucks. Again, not a "full size truck".

    Additionally, should you want to take your wife or your girlfriend, you will need a truck with 2 bunks. According to my friend and neighbor who works for them, less than half of the fleet is a dual bunk truck.
     
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  9. McCauley

    McCauley Medium Load Member

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    I too have done extensive research on companies that will train me for my CDL and employ me, and I too have decided that Prime is the best fit for me and is where I'm going to start.

    Why someone in the same situation would choose a different company if well informed on all of the options? Since this was the question asked, here's some of the answers I can think of:

    - They do not like the idea of living in the Eco49 tractor.
    - They do not like the length of time of training, living in a truck with another dude, which seems to be long, comparatively.
    - They do not like the speed the trucks are governed at, which seems to be very low, comparatively.
    - They do not want to run reefer for whichever reason, but mostly because of the wait times that can be expected at shippers/receivers.
    - They do not want to run reefer, but they also do not want to run flatbed or tanker with Prime because Prime seems to be much more active in the reefer market.
    - Prime does not advertise favorable regional options or home time based options such as the 14/7 some other companies run.

    None of these things matter to me, but these are some of the reasons why people would understandably choose other companies. Every man has different needs.
     
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  10. PChase

    PChase Road Train Member

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    How long have you driven for prime... Oh wait, wait . You don't drive for them, the only thing that you think you know is based on 2nd, 5th, 36th or 4683562nd hand convo. If you don't actually know then keep quiet.
     
  11. PChase

    PChase Road Train Member

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    Driving a truck is a job like any other. There are going to be things you like about it and there are things you don't like about it. True, primes trucks are governed. Company trucks are governed at 58 in the floor and 62 on the cruise. Lease trucks are governed at 62 on the floor and 65 on the cruise.

    A number if us drive slower because we are financially enticed to do so.

    From my time that is the only company induced downside. The industry has it's own downsides such as having to flip flop your mental clock ftom night driving to day driving within a 12 hour time span .

    I still say if you can show me a company that can significantly beat Prime's. Company parties then I'll consider switching companies.

    because I am confident that other companies can't or won't beat Prime's parties I'll stay where I am, enjoying the lovely fringe benefits Robert bestows upon us.
     
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