Please look at this log example

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by cliffb7, May 18, 2011.

  1. cliffb7

    cliffb7 Bobtail Member

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    I am new at the logs but I believe I have this figured out. Please look at the attached log example and chec to see if my notes are correct. That is what I want to know for sure! If you have other comments that is fine but simply said, I just want to knowif this example and my notes that I have made on the example are correct. Thank you!
     

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  3. Swaps

    Swaps Heavy Load Member

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    Split sleeper is confusing. I knew it pretty well a while ago, but w/o using it at all it's slipping. Your notes look ok, but dont hold me to it.
     
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  4. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    where did you get the example from? I'm just curious.
     
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  5. lostNfound

    lostNfound Road Train Member

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    Your notes are fine. You are correct that the eight-hour break must be in the sleeper in order to qualify for the split-break. Of course, you know that the two-hour break does not have to be in the sleeper.
     
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  6. Heirforce1

    Heirforce1 Medium Load Member

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    According to examples you slept 10 drove 3, worked 4 (7) off the 14 hr clock. Then drove 2 more for a total of 9 hrs worked/driven. You slept for 2 hrs then drove for 3 more hrs. Looking at the example you would had only 2 more hrs available. After 8hrs of sleeper berth time then you drove for 12.5 automatic violation. If it's not your log whoever this is didn't plan their trip correct and got bit by the 14hr rule
     
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  7. Heirforce1

    Heirforce1 Medium Load Member

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    To be sure though check in the other forums they have trainers, espcially in the swift and werner forums who can answer for sure. Good luck going forward
     
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  8. Swaps

    Swaps Heavy Load Member

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    it's an example from a testing book.
     
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  9. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    That's a dumb example. Drives me crazy(ier)
     
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  10. WitchingHour

    WitchingHour Road Train Member

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    If you really want the rundown on logs, go to the Meyer Trucking yard on Mark Dabling Blvd, and ask for the driver of the blue Freightliner Columbia, if he's in. If he's willing to take the time to go through them with you, I promise you he can get you squared away on logs.
     
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  11. Meltom

    Meltom Road Train Member

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    OK I get it now.

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    Violations: On Day 2, there is an 11-hour rule violation from 4:00 p.m. – 9:00 p.m. and a 14-hour rule violation from 7:00 p.m. – 9:00 p.m.

    Explanation — 11-Hour Limit: After 10 consecutive hours off duty, the driver had 11 hours of driving time available at 10:00 a.m. on Day 1 (CP#1). After driving 8 hours (3+2+3), the driver took 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper berth, which, combined with the earlier 2 consecutive hours in the sleeper, made the driver eligible for the sleeper-berth provision. This moves the 11-hour calculation point to the end of the first of the two qualifying breaks, or 9:00 p.m. on Day 1 (CP#2). Between CP#2 and 8:00 a.m. on Day 2, the driver had 3 hours of driving, so at 8:00 a.m. there were 8 hours remaining, but he or she continued to drive, for an additional 5 hours, after reaching the 11-hour limit at 4:00 p.m.

    NOTE: When using the sleeper-berth provision, the 2-hour break can fall before or after the 8-hour sleeper-berth break.

    Explanation — 14-Hour Limit: After 10 consecutive hours off duty, the driver had 14 hours available at 10:00 a.m. on Day 1 (CP#1). The driver reached the 14-hour limit at midnight (the 2-hour sleeper-berth period is included in the 14-hour calculation because it is less than 8 hours). The driver then entered the sleeper berth for 8 consecutive hours and took advantage of the sleeper-berth provision (see above). This moves the 14-hour calculation point to 9:00 p.m. on Day 1 (CP#2), the end of the first of the two qualifying breaks. Counting forward from there (and excluding the 8-hour sleeper period), the driver had 11 hours remaining as of 8:00 a.m. on Day 2. Those 11 hours were used up by 7:00 p.m. and the driver drove for 2 hours past the 14-hour on-duty limit.

    To remain in compliance: The driver should have stopped driving at 4:00 p.m. on Day 2. If he or she had gone off duty or in the sleeper berth for at least 2 consecutive hours at that time, the calculation point would have moved to 8:00 a.m. on Day 2 and the driver would have remained in compliance.
     
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