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    Quote Originally Posted by subpartrucker View Post
    I've never gone OTR,I've always been "local",but more like North east regional (NY,MA,PA,NJ,CT,RI,NH,VT),my first driving job I got hired as a forklift driver (had my CDL),but within 3 months I was driving for them.The loads I ran were trips that can be done in a day in a day cab,about 500-650 miles round trip on average with a lot of long hours,but I was home every night.Currently I'm a "yard switcher" at a retail distribution center,I average about 45 hours a week and make the same money as I was making at my previous job (which made hell look like club med).I do miss going different places every day,but for now I'm ok with what I'm doing.So it is possible to get a driving job with out going OTR for the first year.

    I tried PM'ing but my post count is still to low. Could you PM or tell me on here what company the "North east regional" where you started as a forklift operator was? The description you gave is pretty much EXACTLY what I'm looking for currently. Thanks in advance for any intel.



    Separate subject:
    I would like to haul fuel, since it's something I have actual experience with (5years military fuel hauling, 2years military flatbed, w/deployments), but I haven't gotten the tankers and hazmat endorsements yet on my CDL because I was told to wait until I find a company willing to hire that requires them before wasting my time and money if I get hired by a place that doesn't require them, and even if I have them, stateside fuel companies do not consider military driving as "experience".

    BTW: I don't drive 5-ton or 7-ton military trucks, I drive regular old frieghtliners with bad paint, on the road here in the states, and wherever I'm told to overseas. I do have road time, as well as combat operations time, line-haul/OTR hauling fuel. I also have an up-to-date hazmat (on my mil-lic, not on my CDL). So why won't companies/insurance count that as time?

    I'm not trying to sound whiney, as if the world owes me something. I'm just trying to say that I have been doing this for years, I have been to multiple schools and courses, and I have hauled mōgas on some of the most dangerous roads in the world. I'm not trying to say I'm better than anyone else either, just frustrated at the "system".
    Last edited by BucketOKarma; 08.17.2012 at 09.02 AM. Reason:: typos

  2. #252
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    Hey All,

    THANK YOU for all your posts!... I've read ALL 251, and can say this is the best education to date on what/how/where to become a Driver. With all that said.......

    I applied on-line yesterday for both Schneider and CR England. Got a callback form Schneider this morning, and CR England this evening. I did some research a few months ago, and CR England was always getting bad reviews. Decided to "give it a try" anyways.

    Schneider sent me thru the first "phone interview" and just e-mailed them my information for their background check. Awaiting their reply. They are interested in giving me a "full ride" and only ask for six months repay time. They work with MTC training, and MTC says four to six weeks of training, and then they hand me off to the Schneider training program, but at least I'll be earning pay after the initial four to six week MTC training.

    CR England will get a call from me tomorrow informing them I will not pursue their offer of training in Indiana, after all the crap i read on line about their operation.

    I'm excited about going OTR and liked the earlier quote about QUALITY vs. QUANTITY home time....

    So...... Comments about Schneider and their operation would be appreciated!

    Thanks again for all your informative posts, and I'll also document my initial "paying my dues" time as a professional driver......

  3. #253
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    Con-way recruiter told me flat out that I have to do OTR for a year before I can run LTL, dedicated or regional with them

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7122894003481 View Post
    Me and another guy on here were having a discussion earlier.....We both feel there is alot of bad information being regurgitated over and over to rookies and wannabes......

    First thing first:

    You dont necessarily have to spend a day over the road!!!! Depending on your location, work ethic, endorsements and driving record, there is a very good chance that you can go straight into a local or regional job.

    Dont believe me? Go to an LTL terminal and ask around. Ask how many guys have been over the road. Sure, some have, but it seems most LTL drivers have always been LTL drivers.

    Heres how it works: Everybody tells you "You HAVE to get atleast 1 year otr before local companies will even look at you"........BS!!!!

    Dont misunderstand me, Im not saying every local company will hire you.......But many will! Ive been in LTL for a while, Ive seen tons of rookies come in. You might have to work the dock to start, and wait for a driving job to open up, but you will be home every night!

    Im just tired of seeing all these people go to these mega carriers signing their soul away for their CDL......Heres another little secret. Many LTLs will hire you as a dockworker, and let you go out in the yard and use their equipment to practice for your CDL. This is how MANY LTL drivers got their start, myself included.

    And its not even just LTL. Pepsi, 7up, Zinc, Monarch Beverage, Coca Cola, and the list goes on and on.....All of them have warehouse employees, and have their own trucks. And many of them promote from within before hiring off the street!

    You can get your CDL for $200, IF YOU ARE WILLING TO WORK FOR IT!!! You can learn all the pre trip and manuevering skills on your own....Or work at a warehouse, or the dock at an LTL company, and save up money to put yourself through CDL school! You wont owe anybody a dime when its all said and done. You can go to your employer and say "Look, I took the initiative of getting my CDL on my own. Would you please consider me for a driving job when one becomes available?"

    Or some places have a bid process, and when a driving job becomes available, they let the inside employees bid on the job.

    There isnt always a waiting list, because many people dont get their CDL on their own anymore.

    Theres even a few local companies that have their own driving schools (Estes Express Lines comes to mind...Good company)

    Just something to think about. If you are young, not afraid to work, and dont think driving a forklift is beneath you...Yes, working on cold open docks sucks, but generally the pay is decent, and you are working towards a future......And want a good paying job that will most likely get you home every night, then do it! Just get your doubles/triples and hazmat endorsements.

    Heres some of the large LTLs.....

    UPS Freight
    ABF
    Dayton Freight
    Conway (LTL)
    YRC (Yellow/Roadway)
    R&L*
    Central Transport*
    Fedex Freight
    Estes Express Lines
    Saia Motor Freight*
    Vitran*
    Old Dominion
    USF Holland

    *= These in my opinion are bottom feeder LTLs, but for a rookie, it wouldnt be bad. Get your CDL with their equipment, get some experience and then apply to a better company.

    If anyone wants more information, or has any questions...PM me damnit. I hate seeing all these guys being told lies about having to go over the road. Its simply not true.

    I did the over the road crap when I first started out and got laid off for a while from Overnite Transportation. Its not bad but its definitely not for everybody.

    Heres something else......If a job says it requires 1 year experience, whats it gonna hurt to apply???? NOTHING! Apply anyways! All they can do is say no. Ive been informed that my company advertises they require 1 year experience on their website.....We get rookies all the time! We get guys who come off the dock who have never drove before, get their CDL and get a driving job! It happens. It is not impossible.

    Thank you for your post. Any companies you might suggest for regional?

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    I would never pull containers.. half a day to get a chasis, and half a day to get the container for a 3 hour run, just awesome!

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    has retired.

    so don't expect him to answer.

    but ..

    Good Luck !

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  8. #257
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    I have a clean record and background and have applied to several local job in Jacksonville and still no dice, any advise? Everybody asking for 6 to 1 year of OTR

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    it's not a matter of being OTR. it's a matter of can you drive a truck. no one wants someone that's gonna break transmissions.

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    A lot of companies are asking for 1 year current or at least 6 months. Not to say you can't find something but they make it hard. If you want local you will probably have to work on the dock somewhere for a while. Or just suck it up and do your one year OTR like a lot of us had to do. It's not that bad. I just kept saying "It's only a year, I can make it" I ended up having a blast out there. That was in 1997 though. Things sure have changed. Good luck

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