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Old 02.17.2007
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70 hour rule question

I will probably learn this in school, but is there a way to extend the 70 hour rule so that you can get to a safe place to take your reset?

I was just thinking, that even with good planning, I am sure there would be times were you could end up getting stuck in traffic for awhile, then your planning goes to all ####, and you end up nowhere near were you can take a reset.

Any answers are welcome, thanks in advance.
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Just going by what I remember from class, mind you, but there is something like an extension. It's not according to the 70 hours, but to the 11 driving hours in a given work day.

I think if you encounter weather or other serious/emergency conditions that would be unsafe for you to stop in (IE Blizzard, hurricane, etc) you are permitted to continue on up to two (2) hours in order to get to a safe location to stop.

I have the big green bible (regulations) around here somewhere. I'll try to look up the regulations in a bit.
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I will probably learn this in school, but is there a way to extend the 70 hour rule so that you can get to a safe place to take your reset?

I was just thinking, that even with good planning, I am sure there would be times were you could end up getting stuck in traffic for awhile, then your planning goes to all ####, and you end up nowhere near were you can take a reset.

Any answers are welcome, thanks in advance.
you can drive "up to" an extra 2 hours to get to a safe place, if you didn't know before you started your trip about bad weather/road conditions in ADVANCE of your departure (starting point). if you knew that there was going to be bad weather, then you cannot drive those extra 2 hours. someone, somehow has to "prove" you knew beforehand. and you cannot use this extra 2 hours every day or every week. there is a limit, but i do not have my DOT rules book.
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It is definitely for extreme situations. You can be sure that if your safety department sees you use this very often at all that you will be in the office soon for a little "counseling".
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What the California handbook says is that you can't go beyond 60 hours in 7 days followed by a day rest, or 70 hours in 8 days followed by 34 hours rest. It seems awfully silly to me. Granted, people shouldn't be driving for extended periods of time without sleep because they could cause an accident - it seems like they put the maximums awfully low though. Maybe it will make more sense to me if I decide to go for it and get my CDL.
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What the California handbook says is that you can't go beyond 60 hours in 7 days followed by a day rest, or 70 hours in 8 days followed by 34 hours rest. It seems awfully silly to me. Granted, people shouldn't be driving for extended periods of time without sleep because they could cause an accident - it seems like they put the maximums awfully low though. Maybe it will make more sense to me if I decide to go for it and get my CDL.


It is silly, the gooberment restricting our income like this.

Of all the log rules I hate, the one I hate worst has got to be that blasted 70 hrs in 8 days.
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It does seem low.

14x8 = 112 max hours. So they are cutting out 42 hours of possible income. I can see having a requirement for max time, but like was said, this seems very low. What ya gonna do though, gotta follow the law.
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I will probably learn this in school, but is there a way to extend the 70 hour rule so that you can get to a safe place to take your reset?

I was just thinking, that even with good planning, I am sure there would be times were you could end up getting stuck in traffic for awhile, then your planning goes to all ####, and you end up nowhere near were you can take a reset.

Any answers are welcome, thanks in advance.
No you can NOT legally drive past the 70 hour. You can however be on line 4 past your 70 hour, it will come out of your hours available for tomorrow.

The only regulation the 2 hour advherse weather is for is the 11 hour rule.

You can not drive past the 14th hour or past the 60/70 for any reason (legally).
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I had 66 hours at Cheyenne, WY and there was an ice storm forecast for NB, part of the same bunch of bad weather that had been causing problems for CO, NM. and western KS, I elected to spend New Years 800 miles from home getting a reset rather than running out of hours and being stranded somewhere, I also didn't want to risk an incident, I have seen too many of those lately all over the Midwest.

34 hours later there were only a few patches of icy road in NB, many of the rest areas were closed due to no electricity, and the ditches and medians were littered with cars and trucks that didn't make it through the storm. I had warning and did the safe thing by waiting out the storm, and getting a reset on the 70 hour clock.

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I had 66 hours at Cheyenne, WY and there was an ice storm forecast for NB, part of the same bunch of bad weather that had been causing problems for CO, NM. and western KS, I elected to spend New Years 800 miles from home getting a reset rather than running out of hours and being stranded somewhere, I also didn't want to risk an incident, I have seen too many of those lately all over the Midwest.

34 hours later there were only a few patches of icy road in NB, many of the rest areas were closed due to no electricity, and the ditches and medians were littered with cars and trucks that didn't make it through the storm. I had warning and did the safe thing by waiting out the storm, and getting a reset on the 70 hour clock.

AJ
You was a smart one there. Technically if you or the dispatcher could have know the "bad weather" was coming you can not use the adverse weather anyhow. Everyone knew the storm was coming so technically DOT says you should plan better. That is basically their words (not mine). You have to outweigh if you want to be stuck on the road or at a truck stop (hotels are even better ).

GREAT JOB! I WANT SPRING TO BE HERE
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