There was a big to-do in Az. (Phoenix) some years back about the validity of red lite tickets. It came out that the ticket wasn't really enforceable as far as collecting the fines. Seems you run a red lite, and receive a ticket in the mail with orders to pay the fine etc. No due process. The authorities announced you did not have to pay the fine and nothing went on your record. The company manufacturing the cameras and installing them were bringing in boatloads of cash and splitting it (70-30) with the local cities.

Originally Posted by Allow Me.

There was a big to-do in Az. (Phoenix) some years back about the validity of red lite tickets. It came out that the ticket wasn't really enforceable as far as collecting the fines. Seems you run a red lite, and receive a ticket in the mail with orders to pay the fine etc. No due process. The authorities announced you did not have to pay the fine and nothing went on your record. The company manufacturing the cameras and installing them were bringing in boatloads of cash and splitting it (70-30) with the local cities.

Big controversy now in Chicago as they are installing speeding cameras near every school in the city of Chicago. There are 648 schools in Chicago.

They are set to ticket you at 6+mph over the posted limit.

Here is one on many articles on the subject. http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/04/...d-camera-plan/

I just wiped egg all over sioux citiy ia's cameras for a ticket off a malfunctioning machines. I now have to decide if i want to put a peoplenet or other elog in my own truck for protection from these #### things.

He's thpecial doncha know....

A little anticipation can go a long way in "some" cases. If I'm rolling in a city block and I see the light ahead has been green the whole time I'm traversing the preceeding block I might expect that it will change soon, therefore I might lift and begin engine braking "if allowed" or begin to slow a bit to allow myself time "hopefully" to stop if needed. Kindof like following distance. Do you follow the veh. ahead of you by one car length and then proclaim you did not have time or could not stop when you rear end them?

That said I'm certainly not "golden" here and have rolled through intersections against the light. But more often than not I try to anticipate and keep my speed at a point where I can stop if need be. I'll be the "Slow Truck" rolling through town. As was said elsewhere the speed linit is NOT the minimum required, and one could say if you cannot safely stop that you were in fact driving too fast for conditions.