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BRIDGE LAWS , Tandem holes HELP!!!

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by OutboundGateChic, Jul 28, 2012.

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  1. Jul 28, 2012 #11
    OutboundGateChic

    OutboundGateChic Bobtail Member

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    IF I was a driver H11 I'd have one... I'm just a gate ops chic that process the paper work prints the bills and seals up the truck.
     
    OutboundGateChic, Jul 28, 2012
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  3. Jul 28, 2012 #12
    ChromeDome

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    Try this out for size.




    Trailer Wheelbase Description of Limitation and Additional Requirements

    Alabama 41' maximum distance between kingpin and the center of rear axle assembly on trailer
    Arkansas No limits specified
    Arizona No limits specified
    California 40' Maximum distance between kingpin and the center of rear axle assembly on trailer
    Colorado No limits specified
    Connecticut 43 maximum distance between kingpin and the center of rear axle assembly on trailer
    Delaware No limits specified
    Florida 41' maximum distance between kingpin and the center of rear axle assembly on trailer
    Georgia No limits specified
    Idaho No limits specified
    Illinois 42' 6" maximum distance between kingpin and the center of rear axle assembly on trailer
    Indiana 43' maximum distance between kingpin and the center of rear axle assembly on trailer
    Iowa No limits specified
    Kansas No limits specified
    Kentucky No limits specified
    Louisiana No limits specified
    Maine 43' maximum distance between kingpin and the center of rear axle assembly on trailer
    Maryland 41' maximum distance between kingpin and the center of rear axle assembly on trailer
    Massachusetts No limits specified
    Michigan 41' maximum distance between kingpin and the center of rear axle assembly on trailer
    Minnesota 43 maximum distance between kingpin and the center of rear axle assembly on trailer
    Mississippi No limits specified
    Missouri No limits specified
    Montana No limits specified
    Nebraska No limits specified
    Nevada No limits specified
    New Hampshire 41' maximum distance between kingpin and the center of rear axle assembly on trailer
    New Jersey 41' maximum distance between kingpin and the center of rear axle assembly on trailer
    New Mexico No limits specified
    New York 41' maximum distance between kingpin and the center of rear axle assembly on trailer
    North Carolina 41' maximum distance between kingpin and the center of rear axle assembly on trailer
    State/Province Trailer Wheelbase Description of Limitation and Additional Requirements
    North Dakota No limits specified
    Ohio No limits specified
    Oklahoma No limits specified
    Oregon No limits specified
    Pennsylvania 41' maximum distance between kingpin and the center of axles on the trailer
    Rhode Island 41' maximum distance between kingpin and the center of axles on the trailer
    South Carolina 41' maximum distance between kingpin and the center of axles on the trailer
    South Dakota No limits specified
    Tennessee 41' maximum distance between kingpin and the center of axles on the trailer
    Texas No limits specified
    Utah 41' maximum distance between kingpin and the center of axles on the trailer
    Vermont 41' maximum distance between kingpin and the center of axles on the trailer
    Virginia 43' maximum distance between kingpin and the center of axles on the trailer
    Washington No limits specified
    West Virginia 37' From tractor rear axle to trailer first axle cannot exceed 37" (max 41" form kingpin to center of trailer axles is OK)
    Wisconsin 43' maximum distance between kingpin and the center of rear axle on the trailer
    Wyoming No limits specified
     
    ChromeDome, Jul 28, 2012
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  4. Jul 28, 2012 #13
    Cranky Yankee

    Cranky Yankee Cranky old ######

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    at transam we have a pin hole set for calf that we all SHOULD know all our trailers are 300 lb holes
    it isn't rocket science we run over 78000 almost always and are constantly adjusting settings
    I learned the first month to not go into Bud plant light on fuel coming out at 79700 with 3/8 of a tank of fuel
    so too many TS's next 1500 miles
     
    Cranky Yankee, Jul 28, 2012
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  5. Jul 28, 2012 #14
    OutboundGateChic

    OutboundGateChic Bobtail Member

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    Yeah, the dispatchers should tell their drivers that come here to fill up as well... These trailers are loaded with flooring and occasionally adhessive which is heavyyyy...

    I've only had 1 truck scale over total gross, it's mostly the rears and occasionally the drives. Once in a blue moon it's the steer that's over gross and the driver says he can't adjust his 5th wheel. It's either stuck or he just refuses says he never has before and he's been driving for umteen years. Obviously never moved intermodal freight! lol

    The driver that scaled at most recently was 29,300 on drives and 36,400 on rears at the 41 mark his words not mine then something about 48 feet (that's when I get confused, I am mathamatically a moron unless it's broken down super barney style (ya know the purple dinasaur) lol . I'm sure it is the adhessive in the rear, I didn't look as I told him if he scaled out over gross to walk over here don't drive.

    My goal here is to know all that I can so the driver doesn't have to adjust and readjust especially since it's hotter then the hinges of hell this summer. I want the driver to come in adjust, scale out and roll through smoothly.

    @Chromedome thanks I printed it out and saved it to a word document. :yes2557:
     
    OutboundGateChic, Jul 28, 2012
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  7. Jul 28, 2012 #15
    silenteagle

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    The majority of trrailers have their holes at 6 inches apart. easiest way to tell is to measure the distance between the holes. newer wabash & utility trailers generally have a 6th hole to 12th hole variance for most states that care about tandem setup (bridge law). California is 6tth hole, The actual standard is 38 feet from kingpin to center of axle on single axle trailers and 40 feet from kingpin to center of rear axle on tandem axle trailers. Most 53 foot trailers will put you at 13 fee locationt from the rear of the trailer, which is usually the 6th hole for 53 foot trailers.

    I gets more confusing, as the distances listed on page A16-17 are for state and local roads, and on Federal (interstate) highways there is a federal standard. Also keep in mind that the driver is the one that gets hammered if his trailer is configured wrong.

    The easiest way would be to measure from the back of the trailer. What I would do if I had your job? I would get an Atlas and set it where drivers could see page A16-17. I would also paint a mark on the ground where they have to stop their drive tires (approximate kingpin locatio) then paint a couple marks for the followng feet: 38, 40, 48, 50, 53. (most common
     
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  8. Jul 28, 2012 #16
    FozzyNOK

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    I did... they are pretty cheap.. roll type tape measures remove all doubt. Most companies used to mark their trailers or place data labels on the left side of the trailers to help the drivers. Set your bridge for the route you run BEFORE even loading the trailer..

    Also carry a white or yellow tire marker for marking the sliders and king pin location on he trailer.
     
    FozzyNOK, Jul 28, 2012
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  9. Jul 28, 2012 #17
    OutboundGateChic

    OutboundGateChic Bobtail Member

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    I will get my boss to purchase a rand mcnally truck atlas for us...

    LOL at a painted line, in a perfect world that would be ideal. We can't even get the drivers to stop at the big white line that is already painted.

    Never the less I will provide as much information as I can to make it smooth visit to our DC.

    Y'alls help has been outstanding, plus it's making my 3rd shift 12 hrs go by much faster. Thank you!
     
    OutboundGateChic, Jul 28, 2012
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  10. Jul 28, 2012 #18
    KMac

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    That,s not always possible, alot of shippers I go to require tandems slid all the way to the rear before docking... even in California.
     
    KMac, Jul 28, 2012
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  11. Jul 28, 2012 #19
    OutboundGateChic

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    kmac that doesn't make a bit of since. do they have a scale on their property???
     
    OutboundGateChic, Jul 28, 2012
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  12. Jul 28, 2012 #20
    fortycalglock

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    Just so you know, kingpin laws, what you're referring to as bridge law, only apply to trailers OVER 48 feet long. A 48 or under can have tandems anywhere. Some 5th wheels aren't made to slide an you'll usually find these on big fleet trucks.
     
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