BRIDGE LAWS , Tandem holes HELP!!!

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by OutboundGateChic, Jul 28, 2012.

  1. buttersworth

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    Hello I need some help with bridge laws
     
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  3. Ubu

    Ubu Road Train Member

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  4. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    I noticed the kingpin on the Werner trailer I pulled the other day is a bit further back than the kingpin on our company trailers. The trailer was a few inches closer to the cab than with our trailers.
     
  5. PackRatTDI

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    Our trailers have 40', 41' and 42' marked off.
     
  6. dca

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    Dang.. if in question I measure from the back .. king pin is set in 3 ft .. hasn't failed yet
     
  7. fortycalglock

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    Every kingpin can be different. I've pulled 14" to 42" kingpin trailers. Other than that, measuring from the back is the easiest way
     
  8. dca

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    Has worked everytime here .. can't complain
     
  9. dca

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    At one time, I did measure from front to center of king pin.. it was always the same.. since I've stopped measuring that distance.. so far so good but I think I'll look again for a bit.. its just a few extra minutes
     
  10. fortycalglock

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    Right, that might be the only KP setting YOUR company uses. That doesn't mean everybody uses 36" which was my point.
     
  11. Toomanybikes

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    Well I like to think you have the best intentions; you have no clue what you are talking about or what you are trying to teach. You are conflating kingpin laws and bridge laws and don't seem have a clue about either. You have no idea about trailer construction or scaling a load; the basic fact is pin hole count has nothing to do with bridge weight or king pin compliance! Now similar trailers might comply with similar loads and pin hole count, but that is far from a given. There are a least a dozen trailer manufactures out there now, another dozen that have folded up in recent years, and they all use six or so different undercarrage manufacturers that may all specify their equipment differently. It is nonsence to talk king pin hole and avoiding a ticket!

    Now I understand there might be some loud mouth trucker confusing the issue by stating he avoids tickets by being in the X pin hole. That may be true, it may be with his equipment, or it just may BS. It just may be as likely he never crosses a scale with his equipment or the DOT officer is to lazy to bust out the tape measure.

    The problem I have is this is not your job. Moving loads is my job and I respect you keep your nose out of it. I don't come in your office and tell you how to run your computer or file your paperwork. I expect the same respect as a driver. You do not have a clue what is going on and are so far from understanding it yourself you have no business trying to teach others. Furthermore, although I don't think malicious, there is a definite tinge of contempt in your question. The problem is this misinformation and contempt pervades the trucking world. I am tired of some office worker trying to tell me how to do my job and getting it all wrong! I am tired of having to explain over this information to every other truck driver after they are confused by office staffs misinformation.

    Just a recent example. For two years I have been stating to office staff and our scale house, that our subcontractor cannot pull 2k more load then our trucks. I have been hollered at, argued with, and even just about got in a fist fight when the man in the scale house thought I should pull what the contractor does. I told him,"take the 2k off, it only costs us $10 to move a K so take $20 off." Oh he was pissed as office staff convinced him that it was so much more expensive. Later that same night, the sub got pulled in to the scale, got two over bridge tickets that cost him $1000. He also got put out of service until the weight got pulled off his trailer. Since our office convinced him that he did not need a log book(air radius) he got a ticket for that also. But that does not end this story. The boss man told us drivers and the subs to run around the scale. I would not and had the same argument with the scale;"I don't need to take anything off if your going around the scale." "Take it off or move the trailers yourself." Well, that night one driver fell asleep driving the long way around the scale. He rolled the truck.

    My point is mind your own job and don't think you can do someone elses better. What I need from somebody in your positions is a warm reception and quick service. I don't need advice on how to do my job. While many in trucking do need it, it is not your place to give it. These people should have gone to a school that taught it. If they didn't, there is no need for me to suffer the consequences of wrong trucking information from office people that don't have a clue.
     
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