Flatbed VS Van : What are some of the pro's and cons?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by huckstah, Nov 4, 2012.

  1. huckstah

    huckstah Light Load Member

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    As someone looking forward to being a trucker in the near future, I'll probably be a slave for Swift for a year just to get the sponsored training, and then move on from there. As many of you may know, Swift gives you the choice of driving a Van or Flatbed. Flatbed pays .01 cents more per mile, but also requires more work (chains, tarps, etc). Aside from those obvious details, what are some of the other pro's and con's when it comes to flatbed VS van?
     
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  3. Wolfen666

    Wolfen666 Bobtail Member

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    Seriously???

    Van's: You have to back to a dock. Some pallets are the exact width of the trailer so if you are not at a 90 degree angle the loaders will complain. Your backing has to be good.

    Flat's: Mostly pull through type unloading/loading, or backing, but doesn't need to be perfect.

    Van's: constantly sliding tandems.

    Flat's: Fixed tandems, but may make scaling a pain as you cannot fix it.

    Flat's Major Con: Strapes, tarps, tightening, damage.... Rain. Snow. High Wind. High heat. Freezing cold. Bad neighborhood.... Doesn't matter. You have to climb around tarping that thing down, straping it, then making frequent stops to tighten. You get like a $20 tarp pay per load... Not worth it for a possible 3 hour strap down depending on how weird the load is.

    Van's: Other than getting out to open your doors, move your tandems and breka the seal, not much outdoor exposure.

    Flat's: Usually a faster unload.

    Pay is usually pretty close to the same, but heavy haul or flatbed that hauls certain types of weird things can make pretty dang good money.

    If you don't mind getting wet, and lots of physical work, go Flatbed.

    If you are lazy and just want an easy job and little outdoor exposure, go Van.

    I drive Van. I am too #### lazy to deal with tarps, and straps but gotta admit heavy haul would be aweosme down the road to give a try.
     
  4. huckstah

    huckstah Light Load Member

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    Thanks for all that advice. I'm thinking of starting out flatbed, and if I don't like it, maybe switch to van whenever an oppurtunity arises. I heard if you choose van first and then later choose flatbed, you have to go through another 6 weeks with a mentor. But then again, I've read that its better for new drivers to start off driving van, but I don't really see why that would be necessary since the chains/tarps is only one more thing to learn. Also, as you pointed out, flatbed parking is generally way easier, and you think that would be much better for a rookie driver.
     
  5. DrtyDiesel

    DrtyDiesel Road Train Member

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    I did van for roehl for 6 months then switched to flats. I like flats a heck of a lot more. I get paid more and make a decent amount extra from the tarp pay. Its also rewarding to get out of the seat and do something other than just driving.

    The other night though I had to strap, chain, and then tarp a load while it was snowing. Only took about 45 minutes to do all three. It sure was cold though. In van all I had to do was close doors and get back in the truck. I've also found that the customers I go to treat me a lot better than van.

    Ethan
     
  6. huckstah

    huckstah Light Load Member

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    Could you imagine having to chain and tarp down something in Billings Montana or somewhere during the dead of winter? I bet that would get real old, real fast. I could imagine myself bruising a knuckle and cussing at the top of my lungs with icicles on my mustache and then falling off the #### trailer...that would be my luck.

    Whats Roehl offer for tarp pay? And does anyone know whats Swifts tarp pay is?
     
  7. ColoradoGreen

    ColoradoGreen Heavy Load Member

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    Wolfen-

    Are you really that ignorant? Flatbed/ lowboy/ open-deck can necessitate some incredibly tricky backing, especially if you're delivering to a tight jobsite. Also, there are numerous flatbeds with sliding tandems on them.

    I've bumped docks with flatbeds. Vans are not the only trucks that do that.
     
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  8. DrtyDiesel

    DrtyDiesel Road Train Member

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    I've had to chain, strap, and tarp in snow, 115°+ heat, and in rain during a hurricane. Its no picnic. During the hurricane I was pondering my choice of switching while rolling my tarps up in 6" of water. I ruined a pair of work boots and a rain suit that day.

    Roehls tarp pay for company drivers is $12 on/off($24) for a small tarp and $22 on/off($44) for a large tarp. I once had a 4 stop load with lumber tarps. That load alone made me a good bit of change. I made more money on that load in tarp and stop pay than I did mileage pay.

    Ethan
     
  9. djtrype

    djtrype Heavy Load Member

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    I look forward to it. I like a challenge. Maybe that's just me.

    Most companies pay between $20-40 for tarp pay. I don't know what these specific companies pay. But that's about the norm.
     
  10. huckstah

    huckstah Light Load Member

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    I was going to say thats not much, but I bet those tarp payments add up after multiple loads in one week!
     
  11. huckstah

    huckstah Light Load Member

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    That one comment alone just pretty much convinced me without any doubt to go with flatbed as opposed to van.

    By the way, when it comes to driving flatbed, I heard it's particular to the area that you live in, and the terminal you are operating from. If I choose swift, it possible to choose any terminal in the USA you wish, or are you automatically assigned one? I don't have any concerns about going home, and so it doesn't matter to me if my terminal is 2500 miles away, or 20
     
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