Son needs advice

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by DH1644, Apr 17, 2014.

  1. DH1644

    DH1644 Bobtail Member

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    My son is a new graduate...received his CDL in December. He accepted an offer straight away and went to orientation in Jan. The company kept stalling about getting him a trainer. They finally found him one but the guy kept calling him telling him he was too drunk to come drive. After a couple days in the truck waiting for a no-show, my son got frustrated and told them to send him home.

    Two weeks later he went with another company. He went through orientation and got a trainer. This was a kid about the same age as my son and they butted heads. Against his better judgement he asked for another trainer. He got one , finished training and then they told him they decided not to hire him and sent him home. I realize my son is young and dumb at times. I am fairly certain they got rid of him because he rocked the boat. So round three.......

    He did finally hire on with a company (small one) that didn't even test drive him. They gave him a truck, told him where to pick up the load and he was off. They made him use back roads everywhere he went and worst of all, wanted him to fudge his log book so he could drive more hours and sleep less. When he was behind on getting his load to the destination, they went ballistic, told him they wanted their truck back and went to get it. They did drop him off at a bus station. My son has the worst luck of anyone I've ever seen.

    My question is...his DAC shows that he's worked three diffferent companies in 4 months. Everyone he has tried recently has told him no because of this. He has really screwed himself, I realize this. But my question is....what now? What does he need to do? Work local, or even outside the industry until he has stable work history? Is there any trucking company that will hear the reasons for his history and give him a chance? He's young, he's made bad decisions. But he's a good driver and I'm sure he will make a good employee if he gets the chance. He really needs some advice from you all that have knowledge of the industry. Thanks for reading!
     
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  3. The Admiral

    The Admiral Heavy Load Member

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    It would help if you tell us what area you are in. Does he want local or OTR work?
     
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  4. Tonythetruckerdude

    Tonythetruckerdude Crusty Deer Slayer

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    One question.....I read where "you" said he made some bad decisions.....but does "he" realize that. If his temper can take control as easily as it seems he might better think about another career. In the trucking industry patience , and the ability to control your emotions are very , very important. He needs to learn that before moving ahead in a trucking career.

    But what he needs to do now is try and find someone that will hire him and try to control that temper...post up your location and someone will be along to maybe give a couple of avenues/companies to try. But , tell him , that unless it's an illegal request/load , just run like he's asked , keep his nose clean with the same company for at least 1 year , actually 2 or 3 would be better. Then he will be pleasantly surprised at how many doors to really good jobs will be open to him.
     
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  5. DH1644

    DH1644 Bobtail Member

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    He's in Texas.

    Tony...the butting heads with the trainer was not my son's temper being out of control. The kid he trained with was ex-military and he would bark orders and yell and my son would ask him not to treat him like a child. They just didn't mesh. My son does realize he has made a mess of things. He's really depressed and disillisioned right now. Every company he's tried has denied him. He really wants to do OTR and start a life on his own. He's a good, very safe driver. I probably shouldn't meddle but I want him to succeed. Everything he tries is always a struggle. I'm serious when I say he has the worst luck EVER! I am really greatful for any advice you can give.
     
  6. BrenYoda883

    BrenYoda883 Road Train Member

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    Just curious... by why are you the one doing the work and seeking advice on what he can do to get to work...
    He needs to have some motivation and initiative if he really wants to make it in this industry.. at his age, he will need to show and demonstrate that he is mature enough to handle the responsibilities of being an OTR truck driver...

    I certainly mean you no disrespect... we all know what length a mother will go for her children and I understand and respect that you want to help your son... but, he will have to, and it will be good for him to take a few steps on his own..
     
  7. Scoots

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    Well... to be honest it sounds like he needs actual training. A CDL can be pretty worthless without it and just passing the test is far from good enough. Fudging your hours is kinda normal for rookies because companies know they have you by the balls and that you can't simply leave. Is it always illegal? Well... no. For example, when you check into a shipper you are technically "on duty" but if you are being unloaded and not assisting well then you aren't working so you can log "off-duty". No one is 100% compliant with their logs, its impossible for many reasons but noncompliance NEEDS to be under 10% (its kinda like the 5 over rule, you can get a ticket for 1 m.p.h. over the limit but it takes a real prick to write that ticket). 100% compliant log books are strangely all on paper. Small companies run back roads to avoid scales altogether because they are targeted for harassment which has only increased under the watch of his majesty's police state. I'd avoid them starting out as some cheat worse than the megas who got that big running cheap overweight freight, screwing drivers, and running unsafe equipment... for the most part they still do but they make large political contributions which means they get a free pass (welcome to Amerika, land of the opportunist).

    Your son has five options:
    1. Go to a community college and get trained the right way (if he is committed this would be my pick... he'll get college credit for it too)
    2. Sign on with Swift, Knight, England, CRST or another from the the long list of companies that suck fat donkey nuts and pray he doesn't die, go insane or kill someone... He'll need those prayers (this was what I actually did, I had to learn a lot on my own... I had to get out and look A LOT... Looking back, I'm very fortunate to be alive.
    3. Drive something else... He has a CDL-A... Just pointing that out.
    4. Jockey trailers for a local warehouse (this pays about $15/hr which is decent... home every night and no logs and you become a backing pro).
    5. Call it done... trucking is a hard life and he may want to check some other stuff out first, he'll still have his CDL so long as he renews it.

    Your story isn't unique. Over 90% of people never make it through year one. If anyone could do the job some drivers wouldn't be making six figures- unfortunately most don't. I'm very aware all these options suck...welcome to OTR Life. Newbies are expendable but without them who would pull for Wal-Mart? Always low prices... ALWAYS.

    Hope that paints a better picture for you. Sorry there is no easy answer and I'm pretty sure that is why you aren't getting any.
     
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  8. DH1644

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    I'm just meddling mom...:). He is trying to fix this on his own. I'm just trying to see if there is a way for him to redeem himself and land a good job. I know you guys have alot of knowledge and experience. If I can't offer him any advice right now because I don't know what to tell him, I'm hoping you guys can.
     
  9. Seasonal

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    I would try to apply at swift or shneider they will hire a monkey to drive there trucks anyone with a heart beat get him his 2 years experience and then try to go to usf holland stay local! Or a class b company like republic waste or waste management explain your situation to the manager trash companies fairly pay well and there automatics. He probably fresh out of school and so how ever you want to put it I'm sure he isn't shifting like a pro and let me tell you riding with new guys will scare the living hell out of you so that's probably the military guys drill serge attitude! Something local and smaller maybe a box truck for a while get some experience first.
     
  10. HotH2o

    HotH2o Road Train Member

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    Did he receive a paycheck from the first two companies? If company #2 told him the decided not to hire him then he was never an employee. He should first start by disputing his DAC report. If he never collected pay then he wasn't an employee.

    I'm curious about the rest of the story. We're only getting one side and if your son is anything like me when I was young nothing was ever my fault.

    He can try applying to companies that don't use DAC. Best of luck.
     
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  11. Chinatown

    Chinatown Road Train Member

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    There's companies out there that will hire him, but he won't be too happy. He will probably wish he was back at the small outfit that had him running the back roads.
     
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