Forum for trainees....

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Commuter69, Jul 27, 2014.

  1. Commuter69

    Commuter69 Road Train Member

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    Can someone point me in the direction for a trainee forum here or elsewhere? Since I should be starting training after the first, I would like to see if there is somewhere that I can post a question or thought from whatever was learned in the day for opinions/advice/clarification from the 'gurus'......
     
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  3. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    Hi commuter right here is a good place to ask questions.Whats on your mind and do you know who will you be driving for yet?
     
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  4. Commuter69

    Commuter69 Road Train Member

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    I'll be starting next week (8/4) with the Swift Academy; unless the answer to a question I am waiting for tomorrow is not what I expect.
     
  5. pattyj

    pattyj Road Train Member

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    In the search box type in swift of swift academy there is many threads on Swift.Im sure someone whos been thru swift training would be more then happy to answer what questions you may have.
     
  6. Clyde07

    Clyde07 Heavy Load Member

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    Go to Denny's at your nearest Flying J. All the experts who make over $100k will be at the counter. Don't worry if you can't get there tonight. They'll still be there in the morning.
     
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  7. Krashdragon

    Krashdragon Medium Load Member

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    Swift academy where?
     
  8. cuzzin it

    cuzzin it Road Train Member

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    Swift "academy" will get you a license, and some basic idea on how to back into a dock, make a turn without help from the fire hydrant and shift... then you go with a trainer and get to practice/develop your new skills....try to observe and learn all you can....
     
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    tumblin dice Light Load Member

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    :biggrin_2559::biggrin_25523::biggrin_25525:
     
  10. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    First thing you need to learn is there are no "experts" in this industry, it is too big to have any real ones.

    IF there are, they wouldn't share their secrets and be billionaires.
     
  11. Commuter69

    Commuter69 Road Train Member

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    Ok, I attended the training academy offered by Swift and just returned yesterday. Let me say that I was not pleased and could not complete the course successfully. Here is why:

    The academy that is in place with Swift is operated by Truck Driver Academy on their behalf and, had I been asked to pay for it, I would be upset thinking I did not get my money's worth: the charge for the training was $4900 including costs for housing PLUS round trip transportation costs via Greyhound between my home location and the school site. I was there under the scholarship they offer veterans, had I successfully completed the course, I would have needed to stay on as a company driver for 13 months.

    The class size was so large, there were 4 students per teacher for driving on the road, and 8 students per teacher in the finer skills (straight line backing, parallel parking, offset parking, and alley dock). Despite repeated attempts on my part to ask for more time and practice on the skills that I knew I needed, I was denied and was dropped. Looking at my notes, the first week was spent as follows:

    Day 1: drug screening and DOT physicals, some videos and not much else.
    Day 2: 'study' and practice tests for the DMV written exams (which I passed, with no help from this as I had purchased a CDL study book published by Barron's and was reading that instead of the materials given).
    Day 3: DMV for the whole group, due to a number of issues, and the class size, it was six hours before I got to speak with a DMV employee that told me that 'Oh, your license is on hold, sorry we cannot do anything'.
    Day 4: after resolving the issue with the court (the court failed to lift a flag on my license), I had to return to DMV and did not finish there until lunch; so nearly 12 hours was spent with DMV!
    Day 4 and 5: some more videos, and practice with logs.

    After that, we spent 2 days with the Air Brakes test and pre-trip / post-trip inspection.

    The second week was spent behind the wheel as follows:

    AM: on the road 3 students to a truck per instructor; I spent 1 hour driving (for a total of 6 hours in the 60 hour week!)
    PM: parking lot practice on fine skills (10-15 minute intervals for 4 hours per day, giving MAYBE an hour per day behind the wheel on these).

    In comparison, when I take a motorcycle safety course, which is usually an 8 hour DAY, we spend more than 7 of it on the seat riding the range! In order to maintain the insurance discount and keep my skills sharp, I typically take this course at least every other year.


    One of the road sessions was interrupted with a need to return to the site for gas and all of us had time taken that day; another one was interrupted by the need to 'regen' the engine and all of us had more time taken on that day as well.


    Since my problem is not with SWIFT, just the school they use and how it is operated, the door was left open for me to complete the training I need elsewhere and return as a licensed, yet inexperienced driver (assuming I do not find a better offer elsewhere for inexperienced drivers in the process). The good thing is that I left with a Class A learner's permit and a DOT physical/long form. That said, I found a local school here that I can get into that maintains a 4-1 student teacher ratio and gives more behind the wheel hours. Their 'range' is set up almost identical to what the DMV uses to test on. This morning, I went to a local one - stop career center to inquire about VA or Workforce Investment Act grants for this (the VA has no program currently that I qualify for since the VRAP program expired without extension); I should be able to get a grant through WIA.

    Since the school accepts VA funding, I reported my experience to the VA, hoping that the VA pulls it's certification from the school and stops funding them for GI Bill / other VA benefit recipients.

    I will say that, of the group I went with, those that succeeded had prior experience driving, those that did not have the experience, were released; yet the senior instructor claims an 80% success rate..... BS!!!

    That said, unless you have prior driving experience, STAY AWAY FROM TRUCK DRIVING ACADEMY (http://www.tdadrivers.com/), OR ANY EMPLOYER SPONSORED TRAINING OPERATED BY THEM!
     
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