Simple question from a new driver - 5th wheel grease and winter

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by neal121, Feb 7, 2015.

  1. neal121

    neal121 Bobtail Member

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    I am sorry if this is a common question but I am a new driver (solo for 3 weeks now w/ PLENTY of frustration regarding freight and shippers :biggrin_25510:). Yet for the mechanical portion of trucking:

    Since its pretty cold out lately (negatives up here in Wisconsin) - the grease on the 5th wheel becomes solid and basically doesn't help as much. Just the other day before the winter storm hit the Chicago area, I had the service guy put some grease on the 5th wheel before I headed back out (by headed back out I mean into a parking area as the snow started to fall and I waited (awhile) till it passed). The service guy went overkill on the grease - PLENTY in my opinion. Yet I am sure it got pretty solid by the time I hooked up a trailer and possibly just got scrapped off to the edges of the 5th wheel. 400ish miles later (stupid short trips :biggrin_25510:) I dropped the trailer and checked the wheel to notice it was showing bare spots again that needed grease - the new grease was pretty much a solid brick to the edges of the 5th wheel since it was so cold.

    I am wondering if using like a small (weak) torch to gently heat up the 5th wheel to warm up the grease to spread it around easier (I wouldn't keep the torch pointed at the grease for a long time since I know it burns quickly - but enough that it softens it again to spread it around). Or to just have the flame move quickly around the grease to warm it up again.

    I just don't want to have to take out a tube of grease every time I drop a trailer in this cold to have to re-grease the 5th wheel each time.
     
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  3. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    Mix in a capful of engine oil with the grease when it is cold
     
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  4. Redtwin

    Redtwin Road Train Member

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    Learn something new everyday. I previously wouldn't have thought that petroleum grease was capable of freezing.
     
  5. Taildragon

    Taildragon Heavy Load Member

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    When you hook up to a trailer, try dumping the air suspension, back under the trailer until trailer is over the fifthwheel, then raise the suspension, then back up to pin until it hooks, this keeps you from scraping the grease off the fifthwheel when you back under the trailer. When doing this you must be very careful that you don't back up to far and overshoot the pin, get out and look. Also do the reverse when dropping the trailer so that it won't wipe the grease off when you pull out as well.
     
  6. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    yep, what taildragon said.

    too many drivers just scrape the trailer, they don't care.

    as for being overfilled. that's how they do it. and is normal.
     
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  7. neal121

    neal121 Bobtail Member

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    Well I agree and understand why the air suspension would 100% solve that issue but the truck I was given by the company does not have air dump suspension so basically thats how a lot of the grease is taken right off - slides under the trailer, pushing the grease with it.
     
  8. Vilhiem

    Vilhiem Road Train Member

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    I'm posting this here in a slight haze since I woke up 5 minutes ago... So if what I say is wrong, or would do harm, correct me asap.

    When in training, one of the people giving our "final" at SNI gave me a pretty good tip, he carried a spray bottle with him that contained the diesel fuel/water mix from the separator when you drain it. It's sticking in my mind that he used it on cold cold days to temporarily lube the 5th wheel.

    Im going to go back to my haze now and catch more sleep... And OP, good luck and don't tell any shippers you're new. They "like" to chew on the newbies. Until someone else confirms/disproves what I said, you might not want to use it...zzzzzzzzzzz :biggrin_25518:
     
  9. Vilhiem

    Vilhiem Road Train Member

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    Oh, and I know you can't dump your airbags, but you know it's still possible to raise the trailer up over the 5th wheel and then drop it down on top.

    And I don't think it actually freezes, but it does get really hard and stiff. Closer to molasses than an ice cube.
     
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  10. neal121

    neal121 Bobtail Member

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    Yeah sorry, describing how the grease gets in the cold was tough. Its not frozen, just stiff as vilhiem said.

    One last question, where is the best place to find a grease for it. Walmart? Or something more specific? Just trying to avoid the expensive stuff.
     
  11. 201

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    I used to put some grease on a small piece of cardboard (or wide putty knife) and schmear it on the plate of the trailer, around the pin. I always thought that was dumb to put it on the 5th wheel and have it scrapped off when backing under the trailer, and have a big glob of grease on the deck plate.
     
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