13 speed gurus in here please.!!!!!!

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by S.V.Buyck, Mar 5, 2015.

  1. S.V.Buyck

    S.V.Buyck Light Load Member

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    I know this topic has been covered repeatedly but I need a little help.I struggled today trying to get grasp on 13 speed. 5h to 6l was giving me most problems. Can shift good when not loaded and drive it like a 9 speed. When loaded I need all gears so shift accordingly. One problem is that I am learning to float at same time I and trying to learn gear box. The truck likes to shift at lower rpm than I am used to and sometimes I don't have enough speed for 6l. Do you guys preselect 6low on range and just lift slightly and and shift? Things went a lot better when I went back to double clutching I must admit. I am used to running up to about 1500rpm but truck likes about 12 to 1300 rpm when floating. Should I just adjust accordingly? I am also having trouble on downshifting,do you guys drop whole gears,for one would you go 8h to 7h or what is traditionally the practice. I even notice that my trainer occasionally slips up on the 5h to 6l shift. This truck is refurbished with new CAT 475 and new gear box yadayadaya is it just because it's new or its just me? I am used to picking things up pretty quickly but a little disappointed in myself for not grasping this as fast as I would want. Any input is appreciated and I am thankful.
    Sherrod
     
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  3. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    If you're going from the basement to the top of the transmission, and it's giving you issues, shift at 1500. The truck doesn't have any likes or dislikes, it will do whatever you want it to do, including shift at 1500. Go 1500, preselect, click up and over, 6L.

    Downshifting, if I am light, I will skip 2 whole gears. Heavier, the top 4, then every full gear.
     
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  4. S.V.Buyck

    S.V.Buyck Light Load Member

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    Basement to upstairs not really an issue just mainly when splitting upstairs. I always preselect 5h from 5l but if I run it past 1300 it won't shift when I let off should I clutch it?
     
  5. bzinger

    bzinger Road Train Member

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    shift at the lower end of the rpm band and when splitting gears just ease off the gas ..if youre going down a hill and the driveline is tite just tap the clutch...13 speeds are pretty forgiving and you will get the hang of it .
     
  6. loose_leafs

    loose_leafs Road Train Member

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    A new or rebuilt trans will always shift harder and tighter since the teeth arent wore off the gears yet, and everything is still tight.:biggrin_2559:

    Just remember you are essentially doing half shifts across the board when going from notch to notch Splitting. Downshifting with the splitter you only need to rev the engine roughly half as much, It took me literally years to get used to that. I usually ending up overreving on a downshift, and had to wait for the RPMS TO fall, which cut into my speed and hillclimbing.

    Watch how the tach behaves when you split within a gear, from say 8h to 8low, so the RPM spread from 8low to 7high might be just a little tighter.

    I got used to just revving about 300rpms higher to do a split downshift and it fell right in.

    Climbing steep long hills is where you will learn to love a 13, you just need practice. Im ib a automatic freightliner and wish to God I stayed i the older truck that I had before.
     
  7. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    Cats tend to like the lower RPMS, 1400 should drop it to 1100, mine drops 300, some drop 400 RPMs, throwing you at 1 grand, you'll still be fine with that size cat, unless you're in mountains of course then drive accordingly.
     
  8. lmcclure1220

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    Do the new 13 spds still have that "phantom" gear that officially didn't exist but was the best for climbing big hills and traveling through towns?
     
  9. S.V.Buyck

    S.V.Buyck Light Load Member

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    Should I just stop floating for now and just focus on my shifts. I can float 11 out of the 13:biggrin_255:Also what's best way to recover in 13? By the time I screw around I end up going back to previous gear if going up through box. Down a whole other story. I am kind of figuring out unless under 25mph or so it's 7hour 7l
     
  10. S.V.Buyck

    S.V.Buyck Light Load Member

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    That's what sense I'm getting.
     
  11. TripleSix

    TripleSix God of Roads

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    You said 13 speed. 5th gear would be on the low side of the transmission. There isn't a 5L and 5H on a 13.
     
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