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munrkr · **^ Top** #1 10.06.2007

I've started working for a local company driving a boom truck. We sometimes work local (with-in 40-50 miles), but sometimes work out of town for a few nights as far as 200 miles away, but always intrastate. I am realy confused as to the logging requirements. I have read the fmcsa regs, and looked at the MI DOT site, but am still confused. I think if I stay with-in 90 air miles I'm not required to fill out a log, but not sure if I have to if we go further than that. I could sure use some help from any of you local drivers. Thanks again.

notarps4me · **^ Top** #2 10.06.2007

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Originally Posted by munrkr

I've started working for a local company driving a boom truck. We sometimes work local (with-in 40-50 miles), but sometimes work out of town for a few nights as far as 200 miles away, but always intrastate. I am realy confused as to the logging requirements. I have read the fmcsa regs, and looked at the MI DOT site, but am still confused. I think if I stay with-in 90 air miles I'm not required to fill out a log, but not sure if I have to if we go further than that. I could sure use some help from any of you local drivers. Thanks again.

It used to be 150 mile air radious did it change?

munrkr · **^ Top** #3 10.06.2007

That 150 mile had something to do with non-CDL exception... I honestly didn't understand it. Just kept reading it... over and over and over and over...

munrkr · **^ Top** #4 10.06.2007

Oh, and it's 100 air miles, not 90. my bad.

But if I understand the regs correctly (stretch), they're saying I can simply rely on my time cards back at the office with-in 100 miles. But can still only drive no more than 11 hours, and work no more than 14 (how would they know if I don't need/have a log?). But any further out than 100 miles, I have to keep a log. But just for those days... pages for days off... restarts etc? I really think I maybe making too much of this, but let me tell you why.

My trainer (stretch) constantly chided me when I filled out a log, but couldn't tell me exactly what the requirement was when I asked. I eventually gave in, and started blowing off the log book until one day we were on the other side of the state and had to cross a temporary scale. My trainer went white as a ghost and said, "We're screwed!"

So now I'm asking others what they do.

wallbanger · **^ Top** #5 10.08.2007

CYA, munkr, do your Log everyday, no matter how funny the other jokers at work think it is. Then you never have to worry about it.
If I remember correctly, it is a 100 miles radius, as long as you stay in that circle you don't need a log, but it won't hurt to have one.

MACK E-6 · **^ Top** #6 10.10.2007

Well, you are subject to a 100 air mile radius, and 12 hours a day. If you exceed either of those, or if you expect to, you need to fill out a log. On other days, your time cards are sufficient.

I work under this rule myself.

rockee · **^ Top** #7 10.10.2007

What Mack said, if you work over 12 hours you gotta fill one out, also besides the 100 mile radius you have to report back to your home work location daily/nightly to be exempt.

munrkr · **^ Top** #8 10.10.2007

Thanks, I've talked with a couple others on this and they concur. Your replies seem to be right on the mark. Thank you so much. Two days ago it was 87 degrees, now I'm trying to find my heavy jacket! Hope you all enjoy the remains of the fall. Me...? I'm in a mild depression with the Badgers and Packers both loosing over the weekend, but hope springs eternal.

Make some dough, and have fun doin' it!

uncle bill · **^ Top** #9 10.20.2007

Mack is right, I do the same. Anytime you have a DOT question, just call or stop by and ask DOT. We do it all the time. I had a state trooper who does DOT truck inspections stop by for one of our safety meeting. Most of them want to help.

j-mac · **^ Top** #10 10.21.2007

Something that you may or may not be covered under also, depending on your local regs, is the "construction rule".....Which is really nothing more than a reset of available hours after 10 hours off duty.....Also, if you have to line log anything for a day or so, make sure you do it as you go...Some of those "helpful" bears out there are sticklers for the up to date rule on the logs.....Good truckin'

j-mac

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