im about to start schneider training and was wondering, whose logging the hours and miles? is it the trainer, student or both?

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You are required by law to fill out your own log book. You can ask questions all you need to but it's your responsibility. After all, whose signature goes at the bottom making it a legal document? It proves your experience and is viable as a tax document too.

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Both.
You will log the hours you drive.
Trainer is to log on duty not driving while you are driving.
You both will sign each others logs.

My trainer and I are running as a team. We don't sign each others logs. There is a place to write in the codrivers name and driver number. If you are running as a team, the driver not driving is to be in the sleeper berth and he damn well better log it that way, not on duty.
Drive past an open scale and let that DOT cop see both drivers up and one not in the sleeper berth. He/she will be curious why one isn't resting while the other is driving.

NOBODY else but YOU is responsible for your log in the eyes of the law. So you figure it from there.

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Um sorry you DO NOT sign each others log. You will list your co-drivers name and maybe his company ID number that is it. You should never write in your partners logbook.

Keep in mind that some companies that send you to their schools take the students right on the road with permits until they can be routed back to their home state to test out. In this case, the trainer would have to log On Duty-Not Driving when ever the trainee is driving. The trainer could only drive 3 hours per day in that event if the trainee drives a full 11.

Whats wrong with both drivers being in the cab as long as the co-driver is logged on as on duty not driving. Yeah a D.O.T. cop may get suspicious but if your logged properly you shouldn't have to worry about it.

Back in 1999 my trainer signed my logs and I signed his. If this has changed since then, I stand corrected. I still have the copies.

Thanks.

I can't remember what day you get your logbook, but yeah...your logbook is your own. Only your hands should write in it. You will put your name in there and then anyone else in the truck (ie, the trainer...other students...etc.) For example...they stuffed us, three students and one trainer in a truck. I put my name down and the three other names on the co-drivers line.

Just make sure to go over the logging section of your big book thoroughly as it's easy to make mistakes if you aren't paying attention.
ie:
*Im going to send in some logs where I dont have the load number from a route that I was a rider on.
*get the full names of the people in the truck that will ride with you. ie...I rode up back home a day ago with a couple of guys...only knew their first name...didn't think of that until after I got out of the truck. Not sure how just a first name looks on a logbook.
*keep track of mileage, last couple of times I hopped in the truck to drive with the trainer...forgot to reset the trip.
*another thing with mileage is that the logbook has a section on the miles you drove and the total truck mileage for the day. Total truck mileage is going to be weird to find out if you drive in the morning and then go to classes in the afternoon while others drive the truck after you. When you are done with training and by yourself, both mileage sections will be the same, unless you drive team. But then another fun part is if you drive OTR and you drive past midnight....then you get to crunch some numbers. ie...I was on a overnight dedicated acct during training. The trainer had an alarm that went off at midnight as we drove and we would figure out how far we drove and the truck mileage and it was a little tricky because its midnight and you just finished driving at 8am the previous morning and your logbook covers midnight to midnight and part of two days of your driving....lol. eek.
*you'll memorize your tractor number and trailer number in training...but on the road, most likely you will have a different trailer each day.
*just finish your logbook before you get out of the truck (either on the road or in training) because if you don't...yer gonna mess something up, lol. IE, mine is in my truck and I remembered last night that the last two days aren't finished as far as putting the hours in and such...lines are drawn but the logs aren't completed.
*remember that you have to draw a line (whatever its called...arg) for each change of duty status, noting where you are. Then between each change of duty status where you weren't moving, you need to bracket to show that you were in, say Denver from 12-3 off duty...etc.
*also remember that darned near every section of the logbook needs to be completed each day. Either fill it in with appropriate information or N/A. I think the only section you can leave blank is the section where it deals with covering as a multiple day log.

Well I was thinking that this was wrong...but after I just finished my last message, what you said is sort of correct. Today, the trainers (in theory) check your logbooks daily, circle and / or have you fix any booboos on your logbook and then they (at least in our OC) initial the recap section of the logbook. When I went OTR with my trainer and a classmate, he watched us fill ours out, but he didnt initial anything.