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Old 11.04.2007
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Criminal Record as a minor

Does anybody know if your criminal record as a minor matters to any companies? I've always been told that when you turn 18 your minor record is sealed and cannot be accessed, but I'm not so sure this is true. I got in trouble only one time when I was 15. Was just in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Got one year probation, but only did 3 months because of good character.

I keep hearing these companies dig and dig and find out everything about you. Is this something I should be concerned about? Or do they even worry about things you did as a kid? If they do, is it something I should be straight-forward about, or is it something they legally can't access?

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Criminal record as a minor has no play. As long as you WERE charged and Convicted as a MINOR.
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I know I was young and dumb once and what I did was I contacted the juvenile court and had my record sealed. After that point there really isnt any way for anybody to get those records. This should be pretty easy, try calling the county where you were arrested as a juvenile and check their procedure to expunge your juvenile record.

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Well, the public can't get those records, but government agencies still can.

Ok, I bet you're wondering how that can make any difference.

Depending on what the crime was, you can be denied a Hazmat endorsement. The background check for the Hazmat endorsement is done by the FBI and they can pull up your juvenile records. And some companies have a requirement that you get a Hazmat endorsement, but not most. Now, the FBI doesn't provide anyone with your record except the TSA and the TSA decides if you are eligible for the endorsement. Either you get approved by the TSA or not, your record will not be released to the public. The TSA only informs the state that you are or are not cleared for the endorsement.

Now, don't get discouraged if you think you might want a Hazmat endorsement and you think your record may prevent it. There are exceptions and time limitations. Here is a list of various criminal disqualifiers and crimes which can have waivers issued for from the TSA website:

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You are disqualified from holding an HME if convicted or found not guilty by reason of insanity within the previous 7 years or were released from prison in the last 5 years for any of the following crimes:

May be Eligible for Waiver/Appeal
  • Unlawful entry into a seaport
  • Assault with intent to murder
  • Kidnapping or hostage taking
  • Rape or aggravated sexual abuse
  • Unlawful possession, use, sale, manufacture, purchase, distribution, receipt, transfer, shipping, transporting, delivery, import, export of, or dealing in a firearm or other weapon
  • Extortion
  • Dishonesty, fraud, or misrepresentation, including identity fraud
  • Bribery
  • Smuggling
  • Immigration violations
  • Violations of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) under 18 U.S.C. 1961, or a comparable State law, other than any permanent disqualifying offenses
  • Robbery
  • Distribution of, intent to distribute, or importation of a controlled substance
  • Arson
  • Conspiracy or attempt to commit any of these crimes
You are permanently disqualified from holding an HME on a state-issued CDL if convicted or found not guilty by reason of insanity for any of the following crimes:

Not Eligible for Waiver
  • Espionage
  • Sedition
  • Treason
  • A crime listed in 18 U.S.C. Chapter 113B - Terrorism, or a State law that is comparable
May Be Eligible for Waiver/Appeal
  • Bomb threats
  • Crime involving a transportation security incident
  • Improper transportation of a hazardous material under 49 U.S.C. 5124 or a comparable State law
  • Unlawful possession, use, sale, distribution, manufacture, purchase, receipt, transfer, shipping, transporting, import, export, storage of, or dealing in an explosive or explosive device
  • Murder
  • Violations of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) under 18 U.S.C. 1961, or a comparable State law, where violations consist of any of the permanent disqualifying offenses
  • Conspiracy or attempt to commit any of these crimes
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Thanks for the replies fellas. Incase y'all can develop an opinion and further help me by me telling the story:

I was 15 years old and went to a party on a weekend. Got pretty drunk, ended up falling asleep (passing out I guess) on the way home in my designated driver's car. He decides on the way home he wanted to break into a fire truck that was parked outside a firestation because there were elections being held the next day, and around here in my rural parish, you go to the firestation to vote.

Anyway, he stole a flashlight, chainsaw....and some other crap. Not only did it make me mad because he did it without consideration of me, but it ticked me off because I mean...come on. A Firetruck!!! Give me a break. How shameful. All the while I was passed smooth out and didn't even know it had happened til the police called my house the next day. My DD even told the police I had nothing to do with it, but as I said, wrong place at the wrong time. I just took a plea bargain since they were still charging me. The charge was felony theft over $500. I was told by the D/A that my record would be sealed when I turned 18. Don't know if it was or not.

I didn't mind the punishment as I deserved it. It wasn't bad. I did some community service at an after school program for kids. I would clean mostly. Take out trash, mop, etc. Everyone in charge of the program said they could tell I was a good kid, and they marked my hours up because they said I don't belong there. A bit later on, my PO put in a word to let me off for good character.

Regardless of whether I was involved in the crime or not, it was still stupid because I knew this guy was no good. Not to mention at 15 I shouldn't have been out drinking anyway. But it's all done now. Hadn't been in trouble before, and haven't been in trouble since. Hell, I don't even drink anymore being on call 24 hrs running a towing company. As a matter of fact, I'm on good terms with all my local, parish, and state police officers as I work with them daily. I'm more or less their go-to guy.

Thanks again for the help. I really hope this doesn't come back to haunt me....
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you should be cool... most of your juvy records are set aside as long as you are charged as a minor (as beaver teaser said).

I had some dooseys in my undergrad days that I am glad did not follow me into adulthood hell I even had a reduced attempted murder when I was 17 that wound up assault class II...


very long story but it involved a paintball gun when no one knew what the hell a paintball gun was (198.

hehheheheh email me for details of that mess!


but you should be fine - most companies want to know about pending litigation/adult ((21+))/and moving violations in conjunction with your work record.
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All the while I was passed smooth out and didn't even know it had happened til the police called my house the next day.
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I didn't mind the punishment as I deserved it.
Why do you feel you deserved the punishment if you had nothing to do with the crime?
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Why do you feel you deserved the punishment if you had nothing to do with the crime?
Well because I shouldn't have been running around with that guy
and I shouldn't have been out drinking. Besides, after it was all said and done, I didn't suffer much from my punishment, as it was very weak and short-lived. I did learn my lesson though, and if I could go back, I don't think I'd change anything - unless it comes back to haunt me of course. Which now I don't think it will.
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you should be cool... most of your juvy records are set aside as long as you are charged as a minor (as beaver teaser said).

I had some dooseys in my undergrad days that I am glad did not follow me into adulthood hell I even had a reduced attempted murder when I was 17 that wound up assault class II...


very long story but it involved a paintball gun when no one knew what the hell a paintball gun was (198.

hehheheheh email me for details of that mess!


but you should be fine - most companies want to know about pending litigation/adult ((21+))/and moving violations in conjunction with your work record.
I wanna hear this. Email address?
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yeah it was pretty sad... had 4 cops tackle me after one yanked me THRU the driver side window (I am not a little guy).
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