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chefLRD · **^ Top** #31 12.01.2007

Finebabymkr.... thank-you, for a day or two I was thinking all I would get were "I holier than you" posts, which I DID expect, but I was also hoping for the EDUCATED responses as well, which weren't coming.

I was hoping that SOMEONE out there could give me an answer, not the "answer that I am looking for" but the actual answer for my question--"disputing the employment history" that I am wanting to dispute with "Dac- Fix" then I would NOT be lawfully obligated to HAVE to inform a prospective employer of my positive drug test. I am fully aware of the "honesty" factor involved with the application process , as I am fully aware of the speed limit, in which I admit, I sometimes disobey. So please take it with a grain of salt. Again, thanks Finebabymkr for ACTUALLY "seeing through the sun through the fog",....... much oblige.

chefLRD · **^ Top** #32 12.01.2007

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Originally Posted by Baack

I have to say I feel for you man

You refered to the DUI post, many drivers have experience with this subject
You charting new territory with your question, and may not get any answerers that put you in the right direction

Its amazing how unforgiving people can be

I guess the only way to prove your self is time
Good luck

Nice...... finally some HONEST and THOUGHTFUL posts, I was thinking I could only get the negative threads, but somebody with honest feelings speaks. Do not be scared "the truth will set you free"... I was hoping someone with some clout would speak..... Do you know if Dac-Fix would help in my situation? Arigato.

chefLRD · **^ Top** #33 12.01.2007

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Originally Posted by hendersoncnc

exactly..edit.

Baltimore, Maryland=Crabs=itchy, annoying, bothersome, problematic situation, unenjoyable to all in close proximity........Get the point? Probably not,............uh! You are 23 years of age, I am going to take your advice at face value.....ZILCH. This response from Finebabymkr was the 1st one that ACTUALLY saw past "positive drug test", and responded to my "QUESTION". Is your avatar like a "Black-Panther" fist,...... the one that was used in the 60's for racial equality,.... or do you know NOTHING ABOUT Black America struggles in fighting unequality, just as you know NOTHING of me. Peace out hendersncnc.

chefLRD · **^ Top** #34 12.01.2007

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Originally Posted by jbc

Chef,
I don't think you're going to be happy with any answer until someone posts exactly the words you want to hear. Odds are against that.

You admit you were in the wrong yet continue down a path of trying to get around the consequences. You say you're not a recreational drug user yet you're in this predicament due to recreational drug use.

I don't want you sharing the road with me especially if you're moving 80,000 lbs. I don't trust your judgment and decision-making skills. A night of fun with alcohol, a woman, and drugs aren't good enough reasons to trash a career and throw your dreams down the toilet.

But that's exactly what you did. You said you are looking for a way to prove that you're worthy of this career. You could have proven your worthiness by not using illegal drugs. Why should any company give you a second chance when you abused the first one?

I am just trying to find someone who can ACTUALLY answer my question, not looking for the "RIGHT" answer. I am not trying to "get around the consequences", I have completed the FMCSR "Return-to-Duty-Process" and I am merely going around the technicalities of the "employment history" that is being reported on my DAC. No more than the high priced lawyer who might get a DUI expunged off someones records so that their client could resume his employment opportunities. Why a second chance you ask?..... because I DO feel I am capable of driving a truck; which is why were here, right? Thanks for your 2 cents.

chefLRD · **^ Top** #35 12.01.2007

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Originally Posted by acw

Are you saying you can't get a CDL license?

No, I have my CDL, went to school, then tested positive at a pre-employment drug screen. I am trying to find a way to get hired at a starter co; please read my posts THOROUGHLY and you will, hopefully, understand my situation. Thanks for posting.

chefLRD · **^ Top** #36 12.01.2007

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Originally Posted by javelinjeff

well don't give up hope--yeah you screwed up but thats beside the point. yes your failing the drug test IS reportable,required in any pre-employment reports. with the BIG companies(note BIG companies).there are outfits who will hire you now that you have completed the Substance Abuse Program. completing that program may be your salvation--had you not gone through with it you would DEFINITELY be S.O.L.

My determination is unbreakable,....... reporting the failed drug test, I realize is SUPPOSE to be reported, but if I do, my chances of getting hired become next to ZERO, a.k.a. S.O.L. I am looking to find a way around disclosing my employment history with the co. that I had the positive, PRE-EMPLOYMENT, drug test at. Therefore, I can start fresh, with nobody knowing about my + drug test except for the unreportable co. and I. Like I said;.... I am FMCSR legal, concerning the "Return-to-Duty-Process" for the DOT sensitive job; SAP approved. Seriously, THANKS for the honest, un-biased, answer.

chefLRD · **^ Top** #37 12.01.2007

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Originally Posted by curtislyn

You might find an owner operator to drive for.

That is "plan-B" if the "employment history" does not come off my DAC. Would you have any advice as where to advertise or where to try and get some o/o's to offer my help/co-driver capabilities with. I was thinking about taking an ad out in the local paper, calling ALL truck driving co.s in my area, or even going to the area's truck stops and asking "face-to-face". Do you have any other ideas which could help me get in touch with O/O'S? It could help them in keeping the truck moving; i.e. making more $$$, and help me get experience without going to a starter co. I HONESTLY can drive good, graduated with a 97%. If someone [O/O'S] live near Tampa Florida or anywhere semi-close, please respond. I REALLY do appreciate the GREAT advice and seeing past MY self-inflicted problem.

Peace.

bbkeo · **^ Top** #38 12.01.2007

Listen the thing is when you go to a prospective employer wanting a job there are a few things you have to do in order to qualify. One of those things is to take a drug test. You knew this. In order to get hired on you have to test negative. You also knew this. There is no quick fix to your situation. You screwed up. It will stay on your dac and it should stay on your dac.

chefLRD · **^ Top** #39 12.01.2007

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Originally Posted by TBigLug

ChefLRD, while, like everyone else, I don't condone drug use obviously. But, I think you are going down a good path to try and make right what you did wrong. From what you have posted I think you FULLY understand the implications of what you did. Most that would have been in your situation would have just said "Oh well." not got any help and not tried to set things right. Everyone here seems to look passed the fact that you are trying to make right what you did (counseling drug tests and such) and are focusing on the fact that you did wrong. That's too bad. "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." I'm sorry that I can't halp you more with the where to find a job and such but I wish you luck. I think your situation is a great lesson for new drivers who might give in to temptation.

WOW....What a breath of "fresh air",........I DO FULLY understand how BAD I faulted, and I am grateful to know that if not soon, then in 1 and a 1/2 to 2 years I WILL be able to pick-up my career path of an O.T.R. driver, but I am doing eveything possible to NOT delay it. I am GRATEFUL of your wisdom to see past the mistake and to actually see the human behind the error. It is a WHOLE lot easier to criticize than to actually read and give educated advice. Apparently not too many people "cast" any, if not the first "stone",..go figure...Gracias

chefLRD · **^ Top** #40 12.01.2007

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Originally Posted by GreenerGrass

any negative can be turned into a positive. Talk to your sap guy and see if you could talk to at risk groups and give your story and what happened because of one bad judgement call. You never know what kind of seed your story may plant and prevent someone elses bad judgement call. The main thing is learn, dont give up, and make a difference!

I agree, .....To be challenged in life is inevitable....being defeated is OPTIONAL. Thomas Edison once said..."when you exhaust ALL possibilities, remember this: you haven't" I think its about perception and perspectives, there are no mistakes, only opportunities for redirection. If you give yourself the freedom to know that ANYTHING is possible, and you keep having faith, belief, and perserverance despite the ODDS, you will eventually arrive at the "top of the mountain". I will NEVER "give-up" and agree that to talk with "at-risk" groups would be a great idea. There are 3 types of people in this world... 1-"The mower of lawns",....2- The life-Enhancers" and 3-"The well poisoners" you seem to be in catagory-2......There are too many #3's in the world, as you can see/read for yourself. THANK-YOU for the much heeded advice.

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