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Old 12.12.2007
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In my opinion some of you need to lighten up. The guy cant get a job and he's getting a lot of flack from just about everybody here, and for what? Asking a question seeking help/advice. Do we all really need to contribute in a negative way? At this point I think everybody has taken a jab at the poor guy so how about we just let it go and wish him the best.

I think we have ALL done things we are not proud of in our lifetime (I know I have) and to come here asking for advice was not the easiest thing for him to do... Then have salt rubbed into the wound isn't going to make him feel any better (now its true we are not here to make him feel better, but do we really need to kick him when he's down and make him feel worse?....does it make you feel better?). I'm sure I'll catch flack for this but I say give him a break and let the non-productive posts stop. This post has 1300 page views, I think he's had enough guys.

If you can help him then do so, but lets drop the attitudes and have some compassion for the guy, after all its Christmas time. Flame me if you want but I've said my peace.

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I just found out that a test i took 8/1/07 tested positive for mary jane. ok guys i know what your going to say why did it take 4 months till you were notified well Il tell you i left abruptly after finding out my father was loosing his leg from dieabities,so i moved and had them send my last check to my parents house. after taking care of my father i applied to a local trucking company and was told i failed a test in August. so i need to find one and was wondering how to do so
Finding a SAP took an incredible amount of time. I first called every counseler in the phone book and asked about a SAP that could help my situation for the DOT's "Return-to-Duty Process". Most did not have a clue what I was asking but I did find 1 person who did give me some information of who or where to call. I then called the DOT and they gave me a web site that had about 6 or 7 SAPs that were available. I then contacted one and he immediately got me an appointment for evaluation. Be sure that whomever you choose to be your SAP, that they are a true DOT approved provider, as there are special requirements that must be met for a drug counselor to be DOT approved/regulated. Good luck to you and let me know if you need further assistance.
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You are responsible for your actions, deal with them.
No one made you post your story on this forum, Deal with the responses you are getting, instead of engaging every one that responds to your situation and supporting every positive post in your favor.

Regarding your actions:
Im pretty sure the murderers, Drugies, Thieves, psychopaths, pedophiles, would say the same thing, they are sincerely sorry for their actions and would do anything possible to get their life back --- Anything. They just aren't posting on these forums.

A technicality? I agree it sounds like you have one in this case, Regardless might not hold up because of your actions. No one wants to put Druggie and Truck driver in the same sentence. Anyone that hears these 2 words will run. Also has to deal with the environment around you by you have to be surrounded by certain people to be able to get these drugs - No one wants to be affiliated with that especially a trucking company.

Your situation: (This is my opinion)
Similar to planning to hire a hit man to murder someone you know even it it never goes through and saying you are not guilty because it technically never happened. The act of even attempting (Doing drugs) being convicted (Drug test) and the murder not happening (You not being hired) will get you in lots of trouble.


What if the drug wasn't detected in the tests, you wouldn't be here posting and even thinking twice of your actions. Chances are greater that you would do the drug between driving because there were no consequences to you at all. It might even reinforce you because it did not show up on test as you expected it to.



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Reading some of your posts i wonder if your still on Cocaine?


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Dealing with my actions?......I am. "Deal with the responses" that I am getting???......uh,...WHAT????...I am RESPONDING to the responses,.... that is the whole concept of the forum. If you mean to agree [deal] with the postings that are not even coming close to addressing my QUESTIONS, not their personal opinions on "drugs and truck driving", ... uh, no, I won't. I will, however, answer back to those who can ACTUALLY put their own feelings aside and ACTUALLY post something RELATIVE to my questions, not condescending. Comparing my situation to someone who ordered a murder is pretty lame....I will give you a situation that maybe you have been in. O.k......You are speeding[doing drugs], you get pulled over [positive drug test], the police did not give you a speeding ticket, just let you go [not getting hired] but still caused you a lot of grief with your wife who had told you not to speed.....UH??...does NOT make sense,.....just as YOUR comparison. ....P.S..... If you can tell just by reading a post that someone is on cocaine, I should and could honestly say that you are not on drugs, but that you are probably mentally challenged. Good luck to you.
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.Just wondering to all the people that seem to think of "McDonalds" or "flipping burgers" the only way for "junkies" to be employed, you are so very SMALL-MINDED, the employment opportunities are really endless;......actor/actress, pro-baseball/football/basketball/tennis/hockey/[u-name it],teacher[yes, your kids too!!!], lawyer, doctor, dentist, nurse, PILOT..../SNIP/....DELIVER 8000 gallons of highly flammable fuel, right along side of your sons/daughters school bus.
Guess you should look for that job as an actor/actress/pro-baseball/football/hockey/basketball/tennis, lawyer, doctor, dentist, nurse, pilot (BTW... they are subject to random drug tests too), etc ad nauseum.....cause you aren't going to get a job delivering 8000 gallons of highly flammable fuel right along side of ANY school bus..at least not in the near future anyway.
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I have written my story honestly and told exactly how and why I am in this situation that was created only by self-inflicted causes. Sometimes after reading a post that would have seemed as if the writer either ignored or did not understand what I had clearly described prior, I would write the poster and explain it all over again. I do apologize to THOSE who think that I am "rambling", "incoherant rant", [nice try at spelling those BIG words "MXH", its actually spelled--incoherEnt, gee go figure why you could not understand?], and "borderline illiterate". This is your opinion and I thank you for posting. I have made a terrible error and I am on my way to seeking to correct it. I was merely trying to find out if the technicality of actually being employed would be my way to speeding up the hiring process, as I WILL be employed eventually. I am the only person to blame for MY mistake and I am the only person who is going to pull myself up and right my wrongs. I am not just looking for the "easy way out", I am only trying to be as efficient as I can. I understand that I am an easy target for people to ridicule me, as I have made such a FOOLISH mistake, but I DO accept this fact and I'm trying to connect with someone who maybe has been in my situation and might have some useful information. Belive me when I say..... nobody can be as disappointed at me than myself. If anything at all, this thread could be informative for a new driver of what NOT to do after driver-school graduation.
Cheer Up ChefLRD.......
In 7 years, any reference to your Positive drug test will drop off the DAC record. Providing you have no further episodes of "bad decision" making, you might find a job as a trucker.
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Cheer Up ChefLRD.......
In 7 years, any reference to your Positive drug test will drop off the DAC record. Providing you have no further episodes of "bad decision" making, you might find a job as a trucker.
Like I have ALREADY stated;.... there is NO, once again....N-O positive drug test on my DAC. Unless you are an actual employee, the company where you had the pre-employment drug test at CANNOT put a positive drug test on your dac. BUT, what they CAN do is to put on your employment history part of the DAC, that you were an employee, and when any company that searches your DAC will see this, and can then contact that company, which in turn, they can, and will release the information regarding your positive drug test. Trust me, I have researched this, and have recieved my DAC confirming my assessment. Also the company at which the +drug test was at can only keep this record for 2 years, being that it was a pre-employment drug test. If you are an employee they can keep it and report it for 3 years. This is the reason why the companies will wait this long to employ someone who had a +drug test. The regulations are easily seen in the FMCSR concerning this subject matter, which I have studied and has led me in the direction of disputing my EMPLOYMENT history. Then if my employment history dispute on the DAC is taken off, viola....no positive drug test will be affecting my hiring. That was my ORIGINAL question which has been mostly lost in a sea of angry, condescending, and, quite frankly, uninformative posts. Long story short Roadkill,......I'll be a trucker in way less than 7 years, at the most....2. Have a good one.
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whatever happened to people not needing dope or alcohol to cope with life i laugh when someone tells me a momentary lapse of judgement or life is to hard i need one to relax, etc brother if it was up to me anyone who put anything in their system before a job interview gets whats coming to them i mean before orientation lol well i hope you like digging those ditches brother cause i can bet if your like any of the ones in my family that has done the dope and are alkys your a real pillar of the community and i dont think a retard is that stupid if i were you id put on a helmet and fake like all the dopers for a crazy check aka social security lol and by the way i will wave if i see ya on the side of the road digging that ditch with cheech and chong lol DOPERS
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Like I have ALREADY stated;.... there is NO, once again....N-O positive drug test on my DAC. Unless you are an actual employee, the company where you had the pre-employment drug test at CANNOT put a positive drug test on your dac. BUT, what they CAN do is to put on your employment history part of the DAC, that you were an employee, and when any company that searches your DAC will see this, and can then contact that company, which in turn, they can, and will release the information regarding your positive drug test. Trust me, I have researched this, and have recieved my DAC confirming my assessment. Also the company at which the +drug test was at can only keep this record for 2 years, being that it was a pre-employment drug test. If you are an employee they can keep it and report it for 3 years. This is the reason why the companies will wait this long to employ someone who had a +drug test. The regulations are easily seen in the FMCSR concerning this subject matter, which I have studied and has led me in the direction of disputing my EMPLOYMENT history. Then if my employment history dispute on the DAC is taken off, viola....no positive drug test will be affecting my hiring. That was my ORIGINAL question which has been mostly lost in a sea of angry, condescending, and, quite frankly, uninformative posts. Long story short Roadkill,......I'll be a trucker in way less than 7 years, at the most....2. Have a good one.
Hopefully, in the interim, you will have a change in attitude.
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whatever happened to people not needing dope or alcohol to cope with life i laugh when someone tells me a momentary lapse of judgement or life is to hard i need one to relax, etc brother if it was up to me anyone who put anything in their system before a job interview gets whats coming to them i mean before orientation lol well i hope you like digging those ditches brother cause i can bet if your like any of the ones in my family that has done the dope and are alkys your a real pillar of the community and i dont think a retard is that stupid if i were you id put on a helmet and fake like all the dopers for a crazy check aka social security lol and by the way i will wave if i see ya on the side of the road digging that ditch with cheech and chong lol DOPERS
I agree that his original post was FULL of excuses and justifications. Nothing I am not familiar with.
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Like I have ALREADY stated;.... there is NO, once again....N-O positive drug test on my DAC. Unless you are an actual employee, the company where you had the pre-employment drug test at CANNOT put a positive drug test on your dac.
Boy are you in for one HELL OF A SURPRISE!!! Becuse they CAN and DO list that you have FAILED a PRE EMPLOYMENT drug test. Just so you know it takes a little bit of time for the company to make the entry on your DAC round about 30 days.
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