I went to my first job orientation and tested positive on the pre-employment drug test. Total BONEHEAD move, I know. No one can say anything negative that I already haven't told myself. Belive me I am EXTREMELY DISSAPOINTED, more then anybody else could be. I am not going to try and lay blame on anyone or any false positives. My BAD choice of actions is the ONLY REASON why I am in this situation. The night of my graduation from trucking school, my friends took me out to celebrate. While at the club, I met a very cute and quite younger lady, after the club closed I went back to her place and one thing led to another, including my decision to use a illegal substance. I am not an avid, recreational, or occasional user, I had not done this drug in 17 years. Not making excuses, just letting you know the entire sequence of my predicament. This took place [drug use] on a Friday night and I was scheduled to be at orientation the following Monday. Upon awakening Sat. morning, realizing the complete lack of good judgement, I immediately called my recruiter and delayed my orientation until the Wednesday of that week, thinking that the illeagal substance would be out of my system, but it wasn't. After the immediate suicidal, angry, mad, sad, and generally pissed off view at MYSELF, I collected up my thoughts and kept breathing. I have spent three weeks and 1200 on a S.A.P. provider, which took 3 days to even find one in my area. I completed all that is required from the DOT, to "return to duty" process. After lots of researching on this I ordered a copy of my DAC report to see if the failed drug test would be on it, as I have read a lot of conflicting threads on if it would be or not. Because I was not an employee; i.e....."pre-employment drug screen" the company could not put on my DAC that I had failed one. But here is how they get around it.....they put in your employment history that you were "employed" by that co. and when you give permission to the next co. for them to research your employment history, they will run a DAC report and see that you WERE "employed" and will contact that co. and then discover your positive drug test. Of course if the co. doesn't use DAC they won't find out, but one does have to go thru a SAP provider and complete the "return to duty" process in order to be DOT legal. Here is my dilemma...... you can dispute the DAC employment history, and if the co. does not reply in 30 days or can not prove your dispute, it comes off. I did this and recieved the disputed DAC, but employment history stayed the same. So I am currently trying one last way to get the "employment history" off, hopefully it will work, as no starter co. will hire you if you have a failed pre-employment drug test, which I do not blame them for several good reasons that I am sure you are aware of. I did not recieve pay, never got behind the wheel, and never got my employee badge and #. This was not employment in the eyes of the disputers that are currently working on getting this off my record. If anybody else has some information that could help, I would APPRECIATE it GREATLY. I quit my job of 8 years to pursue my career change, and have invested a lot into this; schooling, time off of work, moved out of my house, blah blah blah. I am not trying to get out of MY problems created exclusively by ME, I am only trying to get a second chance without having to work at an illegal operations or to not get a chance at proving I can be a skilled professional. The main reason I decieded on the trucking career was that I can drive anything with wheels on it and I am very comfortable on the road, and behind the wheel. I have never had an accident of any kind, only 4 tickets in the 24 years I have had a license. Also, I don't care if I ever get "home" time as I would be perfectly happy on the road for 52 weeks straight. I was a really quick learner at the truck driving school; backing, shifting, etc. I am not blowing smoke up anybodys ##### just telling you exactly how I feel. I haven't been applying at ANY co.s as I am seeing where my last stand will get me, but I am currently at my wits end. Do I still have a chance in this career? Does someone know of a legitimate co. that will give me a chance for redemption if I cannot get the "employment" record off of my DAC?... or you can just LAMBASTE me as I am so deserving for this total lapse of judgement on MY part.

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Unfortunately, driving a 40 ton rig on the public hwy is considered the same as having a 'lethal weapon!' But, you wont just kill a couple of ppl, but may wipe out a whole group of vehicles! Being in that big truck, you most probably will survive, but will have to live with that picture of carnage the rest of your life as well as have ruined many other loved ones lives of the deceased...it is a big deal!! No tolerance in this industry...sorry!

im assuming you smoked alittle pot.
your not alone alotta drivers think they can get away with this some get drug tested before they go for their home time then the carrier makes them take another once they return .lol surprise
but seriously going for your first driving job you should have at the very least enough common sense to understand you wouldnt pass the test. so why show up.

on a lighter note hopefully you at least got laid .

First of all I don't want you to think I am badgering you, and what I say comes from my heart.....Personally I cannot see what some folks see in taking ANY drugs...but man you don't want to get behind the wheel driving under the influence of ANY drug...I don't know the reason you did what you did, but if I were a company I would be hesitate about hiring anyone that had been or is using ANY drugs..ZERO TOLERANCE.....

I really hope you get your life straightened out, because drugs will destroy anyone and take everything you have to support the habit....I know you said you hadn't done it in a few years..but why did you chose to do what you knew was wrong?

My family and grandchildren travel the same roads you would have been driving on and I don't want to even think what my life would be like without them...and all the other people you would have taken out also...I am sure you are sorry for what you did but unfortunately companies will not hire people that test positive on ANY drug.

I wish you luck but I believe you are going to need more than luck....

TruckingBum.... no it was not pot, like I said in my post, delayed my orientation, thought it would be out of my system in 3 days. It was not, yes I should have waited 2 more days and this conversation would not be happening. Shoulda, coulda, woulda...these are all in the past. I am now trying to rectify my mistake. LuckyLady7, thank-you for the heartfelt and honest reply. I MADE a crucial error, I was not thinking about the consequences for my actions at THAT time. I was doing as the "Romans" were doing as I was IN "Rome". The drug I did was Like drinking a gallon of coffee in 2 mins. Caffine, alcohol, nicotine, ibuprofren, these are all drugs that get abused on a daily basis, the only difference is that they aren't illegal. I actually know why "people take drugs", because they want to. Please try to accept that I am NOT a person who is going to let drugs "take everything I got" and "destroy me". I am a hard working man who has had the same job for 8 years land surveying, I am half-way intelligent, and have some actual higher [no pun intended] aspirations for myself. I am not here to argue over the drug laws and defend my OBVIOUS poor judgement, I wanted to see if there could still be a way for me to make my entrance into the trucking industry as I feel very positive with my ability to drive a truck. I would NEVER drive in a unsafe or reckless way, or put innocent people in harms way. I have NEVER had a DUI or a wreck for that matter and WOULD ALWAYS put safety FIRST. I am being totally upfront and honest and would hope for some honest advice, not just an anti-drug post and the effects of driving a 40 ton rig high on drugs, I completely understand the zero tolerence. I was never intending to drive or go to work "on drugs", just as I have done in my past...NEVER. I have though, had some beers on Sunday and actually went to work on the following Monday, say 12 hours later, and performed exceptionally well, go figure.

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"The drug I did was Like drinking a gallon of coffee in 2 mins."

Sounds like you smoked a rock or something.

Tests are accurate enough now to nail coke for up to 10 days, 3 day rule is out the window. Be glad they don't do hair sampling.

there was a fatal collision between two semis out here on I-40. The sad thing is... is that the driver who was DRUNK lived and one driver who was in the other truck in the sleeper didn't. Think about the consequences of your actions BEFORE you decide to do anything like that. Zero Tolerance in this industry for that kind of behavior. I think you're missing the point somewhat. You're worried about whether the substance is out of your system . The substance should never have been in your system in the first place. We're talking about an 80,000 lb. vehicle. But that's besides the point. Whether it's 80,000 or 5,000 it doesn't matter. It's DEADLY.

MXH.... I am laying out my HONEST MISTAKE for everybody to read and I am hoping for someone with some ACTUAL knowledge with a reply to my question; "is there someway to dispute my 'employment' with the co. that I had the positive PRE-EMPLOYMENT drug screen at." I REALIZE that I am an EASY target to "rake over the coals" with....so... YOU talk like you KNOW what smoking rock is like.... at least your being honest in a condescending way.... you sure picked-up on it QUICK, it almost sounds like you MIGHT have done it yourself....OH, BUT SURELY NOT ...UH?[pearched on pedestal].... Back to my original topic/question.... I was never EMPLOYED, which in turn the co. DID NOT and CANNOT put on my dac that I had tested positive. The ONLY way that the company can report the positive drug screen is to say that you were EMPLOYED and can give all DAC affiliated companies that are searching your employment history, for which you apply at, the results of your positive drug test. This is THE QUESTION that I am trying to get some EDUCATED replies to. I have already recieved my DAC report and there is NOTHING on my drug history at ALL, but the company, that I had the positive drug test with, put on my DAC that I was employed at there company, which is totally FALSE. I never recieved a pay check and NEVER got behind the wheel. This is what I am disputing, and how I am trying to get a fresh start in the trucking industry instead of applying with a tarnished beginning. I TOTALLY realize that this is somewhat a "taboo" topic in the industry, but I am a person who has made amens with my faults and I am trying to travel down the righteous path to my future. I am going to fight MY demons head-on and TRY LIKE HELL to get my second chance at the career that I am extremely passionate about being in. Has anybody else been in a situation that has been of there own doing, i.e.....mistake, accident, bad decision, etc....... I can't be the only one who is living this self inflicted, bad judgement, predicament,....can I?????

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I'm not the most educated here, but I would think it will depend on when the company considers you hired. Some, it's the day you get in the truck, others (like my company) it was as soon as we shook hands and said okay after the interview. Something to consider anyway.

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