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daytona45 · **^ Top** #1 12.03.2007

Let me explain I started my bay at 7 am in tulsa okalahoma I unlaod and get to ft smith at 1400.My moronic fleet manager gives me a 2200 pickup at mac steel.I inform him I have used up my 14 hours at 2100 and can not do a 2200 pickup he says just pick it up and dont drive I tell him I cant do that he says it will be ok.Other drivers here tell me to do it and just fix log book later.I dont want to be a black sheep but I dont want to live my life like this either.If I rat out the dispatcher I will be a leper amongst other dispatcher and I probably wont make any money if I do it I will be screwed and if I dont do it I will be screwed.I just want a chance to do my job legaly and not be punished for it what does a driver do is there anywhere you can work legaly and none of this wink wink nod nod b.s. that goes on here.Please advise me what would you do?

bbkeo · **^ Top** #2 12.03.2007

Actually you could legally pick up that load. You would have to split log but if you don't know how to do it then I guess you shouldn't try.

FunnyFarm04 · **^ Top** #3 12.03.2007

I dont know if you are stuck with the company due to a schooling commitment or not, but if not what I would do is talk to the dispatcher's boss about the problem. I have done this in the past and still been ok with the company that it happened at. However I can understand that you could get screwed by doing that. I dont do anything illegal for any company for any reason, it is your butt on the line out there as a driver, not someone in the office who said to do it.

Good luck,
Kim

sweeze · **^ Top** #4 12.03.2007

I asked an instructor about this once and he told me the way to handle it is to call safety and have a nice three way conversation with safety, you and dispatch, just to clear up any misunderstandings.

I have also heard that when you start getting that done to you, stop all communication on the phone and do everything on qualcomm. That way it gets recorded.

All I know is that if you 'fix it later' and you don't fix it right then who gets in trouble. Sounds like its common practice there. But I don't blame you for not wanting to do it. Its a good way to get in big fat trouble.

sweeze · **^ Top** #5 12.03.2007

You also might want to go into the Experienced Drivers room and ask this question there. They probably have some insight as well.

Roadmedic · **^ Top** #6 12.03.2007

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Originally Posted by sweeze

I asked an instructor about this once and he told me the way to handle it is to call safety and have a nice three way conversation with safety, you and dispatch, just to clear up any misunderstandings.

I have also heard that when you start getting that done to you, stop all communication on the phone and do everything on qualcomm. That way it gets recorded.

All I know is that if you 'fix it later' and you don't fix it right then who gets in trouble. Sounds like its common practice there. But I don't blame you for not wanting to do it. Its a good way to get in big fat trouble.

Only problem with the qualcomm is that the company can delete the messages from the truck and the computer. I watched a message demanding the load to be done illegal disappear from the system.

sweeze · **^ Top** #7 12.03.2007

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Originally Posted by Roadmedic

Only problem with the qualcomm is that the company can delete the messages from the truck and the computer. I watched a message demanding the load to be done illegal disappear from the system.

Wow, no kidding, that sucks.

I would have thought that those communications become legal documents when necessary.

Truckerjo · **^ Top** #8 12.03.2007

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Originally Posted by sweeze

I asked an instructor about this once and he told me the way to handle it is to call safety and have a nice three way conversation with safety, you and dispatch, just to clear up any misunderstandings.

I have also heard that when you start getting that done to you, stop all communication on the phone and do everything on qualcomm. That way it gets recorded.

All I know is that if you 'fix it later' and you don't fix it right then who gets in trouble. Sounds like its common practice there. But I don't blame you for not wanting to do it. Its a good way to get in big fat trouble.

Yup do this and watch your miles fall... This is how things are done in this Industry unfortunately.... You will be labeled (flagged) as a complainer.....
They directly control how much money you make.....

Roadmedic · **^ Top** #9 12.03.2007

Tell your dispatcher that you will only run legally and see what the loads are that you get. The miles drop away. You sit at docks and wait forever for reloads. The drivers that run illegal for the dispatcher get all of the good loads and detention pay.

Truckerjo · **^ Top** #10 12.03.2007

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Originally Posted by sweeze

Wow, no kidding, that sucks.

I would have thought that those communications become legal documents when necessary.

this is not a true statement... sorry but its not... They may remove it from the immediate computer but they cannot remove it from the master computer... All communication is permanently recorded....

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