Am I crazy?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by PTX, Jan 29, 2008.

  1. PTX

    PTX "Electronically Involved"

    86
    3
    Jan 29, 2008
    Dallas, TX
    0
    First, let me start off by saying I'm a (GED) High School Dropout.

    For the last 15 years, I've put my blood sweat and tears into building some of the largest computer datacenters for internet hosting companies in the world. A new wave of new blood is flowing in, and they're pushing people like me out of the way, regardless of the fact that I was employee #9 and have been here for 10 years.

    Time for a change.

    Now, lets rewind 32 years.

    One of my first words was "Truck." I was fascinated by driving throughout my youth. I used to steer the van down the mile-long driveway sitting in pops' lap when I was 3. At that same time, when every kid I knew wanted to grow up and be a cowboy or a fireman or a policeman, I wanted to be... you guessed it... a trucker!

    I was driving "solo" in the driver's seat by age 6, and running real solo errands into town by about 10 or 12. By about age 8, I learned to shift stick, and have preferred it ever since (I ***HATE*** automatics). From about 13-18 I was driving most of the "near home" non-interstate miles any time we'd go anywhere (and well, if you need anything living back home, it's at least a 40 mile round trip).

    I wasn't able to legally drive until my 18th birthday, as Texas did not permit anyone under 18 to obtain a Class C license without drivers education or hardship, and really there wasn't any point anyhow- there's really no law back home other than the occasional state trooper who turned down the wrong highway, and what law we did have in town didn't really care so long as you weren't causing trouble and people weren't complaining.

    I'm divorced, I have no kids. Other than occasional personal business, I really have no need for home time... I.E. it shouldn't be a stress factor.

    Talking about stress, I have to admit I've been under real stress before... Nothing like millions of dollars of services and products purchased on your recommendation and with your personal promise of delivery timelines and such to brew up a little pressure. :)

    I've learned how to deal with the rough and tumble of my current industry... how to be patient when I have to be, how to work hard when its time to, how to be a professional and tell my boss I love my job, even during the times when I don't. I know the world isn't going to hand itself to me on a platter and I sure as heck don't expect a free ride.

    I am an adventurer... Between cars and motorcycles, I've seen a lot of the south. I've been camping as long as I've been alive, and it's not uncommon for me to load up camping essentials on my motorcycle and disappear for a week on my vacation time. Likewise, I've had the pleasure of renting RVs and used the opportunity to disappear into the great unknown.

    I have to figure that driving moving trucks and RV's is as close as I have ever come to that 3 year old boy's dream of being a trucker when he grows up.

    Everyone tells me they think I'm crazy, or I'll hate it.

    So... am I crazy? Or am I a driver? Or are all drivers crazy? :biggrin_2556:
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. jlkklj777

    jlkklj777 20 Year Truckload Veteran

    1,871
    1,089
    Oct 1, 2007
    Duncannon, Pa
    0
    Saddle up buckaroo!

    Sounds like your a perfect fit for the industry. If you have a few grand set aside then get into an accredited truck driving school and pay the tuition yourself. You will then have your choice of carriers to work for ( that accept student drivers that is).

    If you are unemployed you may be elegible for sate assistance in retraining for a new career where the state will pay your tuition.

    If you do not qualify for the above or if you don't have the cash or credit lines available then you can be trained through 1 of the big outfits like Schneider, Swift, Roehl, etc. Just be forewarned they will ask that you sign a contract which will lock you in to them as a driver for 1 to 2 years after you successfully pass your schooling.

    Regardless of how you get trained be sure to do it in your home state so you do not have to switch licenses back and forth.

    Figure about 4 to 6 weeks for Truck driving school and then an additional 4 to 6 weeks with a driver trainer or mentor for the company you choose to work for.

    You will probably get nothing for pay while in school for a month and only expect about 50 to 100.00 per day while in training. After about 12 weeks you should be assigned your own truck and start making better money. 35 to 40 grand is reasonable for your first year as a trucker provided you make yourself available and put in the miles.
     
  4. FunnyFarm04

    FunnyFarm04 Light Load Member

    114
    16
    Mar 16, 2007
    Oak Hills, California
    0
    To answer your question, yes you are crazy:biggrin_2559:, but I dont know any truck drivers that arent at least a little crazy, I think you have to be!!:biggrin_2559: I know that I am crazy, but I dont think there is anything else I would rather do. LOL, good luck soon to be driver! Welcome aboard.

    If this is what you really want, I say go for it. :biggrin_25523:My mom thought I was crazy, I really think she didnt want to have to say to people that her daughter is a truck driver.

    Good luck,
    Kim
     
  5. CATFISH

    CATFISH <strong>"Bottom Fishing"</strong>

    62
    0
    Jan 21, 2008
    Greenwood,S.C.
    0
    I say go for it if its what makes ya happy. Life is too short not to fulfill your dreams of what you want. Im in the same boat as you, divorced and my daughter is almost 18 now and thats my main reason for waiting this long. Good luck and keep us posted on your decisions.
     
  6. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

    10,311
    5,253
    Jan 1, 2007
    NASA HQ
    0
    After research, I believe that I am the only sane driver left out there!:biggrin_2559: So.; you should fit in with the rest of Them!:biggrin_25523: Good luck!
     
  7. PTX

    PTX "Electronically Involved"

    86
    3
    Jan 29, 2008
    Dallas, TX
    0
    HAH!

    Thanks for the reassurance.

    I have a way to go before I'm in a position that I can make such a drastic change, and there will certainly be some stress associated with that.

    I've been used to getting a solid reliable salary for a looong time, and I do have a few financial obligations that I just can't let slide, because my credit is too dang good right now.

    I'll take the advice to put myself thru CDL school so I can keep my options open across the board.

    As for carriers and schools, I've been doing a lot of research, but other than what the recruiters and websites promise, it's been hard to find any real world info. Most of what I know other than what those sources promise is what I've either heard from talking to drivers in person/on the radio, or thru online resources such as YouTube and now I feel like I've struck gold finding the forums here at truckersreport. :biggrin_25514::biggrin_2559:

    Anyhow- once I have some things squared away, I would like to do my CDL training on my own time before I leave my current job... Are there any places around here within a half day's drive or less that I could do that? Most of the schools that I've actually seen ads for seem to be CDL Mills, which isn't necessarily bad since no school can really teach you EVERYTHING you will experience in the real world... and no school is going to gain you enough experience to pick up a big gig out the gate...

    I'm trying to prepare myself from earning $80k/yr to as low as $22k/yr for my first year, but at the same time I also want to ramp myself up as quickly as possibly back towards my current salary.

    Ok, at this point, I'm reading some of you guys minds... I really MUST be crazy if I want to walk away from a salary like this... I can't get this salary doing what I do working for any other company- I don't have the industry's new requisite of college degree, and I don't have the tenure/seniority. I didn't get this handed to me on a platter, I busted my butt earning it and honestly the pay came way too late to really be compensatory, especially in light of my situation being slowly pushed aside. I would like to think I could trust these folks to give me a severance package if they pushed me out, but I've seen too few get these packages, and too many just tossed out on their ear without so much as a thank-you-for-your-years-of-service...

    Oops. I'm starting to rant and complain. Sorry about that.

    Like I mentioned before, I know it will be hard work to make this change... but if I can get my CDL and get a decent carrier that can give me the OTR training without bending me over the fuel tank for too long, I think I'll turn out alright. So long as I don't end up like a swift driver i've met through youtube, who claims he's only made 400 bucks in his first MONTH driving solo because his truck has left him stranded 4 times for the same problem and swift just won't get it fixed right.

    In another thread, someone was saying new hands these days tend to think the world should be handed to them, i.e. their swift-like backing skills cause them to deserve a 0-mile truck like a 12-year veteran might get. I don't expect a cherry clean truck for my first ride, but I do expect a truck that runs- and a carrier who cares enough about THEIR income to get me into another truck asap after issues like this guy has experienced.

    What's general opinion about 'no money down' lease programs, such as Stevens/Alliance? I know that it may not be as profitable and could be less profitable to be my own operator out of the chute... but what about after a year or two? Or would I be far better off saving my pennies and buying/getting a loan for a truck w/o lease carrier hovering over me all the time?


    Thanks all for taking the time, and for your support. I'm sure I'll love it... now it's just a matter of making all the pieces fall into place.
     
  8. sassytrucker

    sassytrucker <strong>"Don't Sass Me"</strong>

    228
    5
    Oct 29, 2007
    Denison, TX
    0
    I think you are making the right choice. Sounds like you can't count on that job and income you are making forever. So you might be giving that salary up for now, but it is probably in your best interest. At least you are being proactive and trying to find another career while you are still working and not once you are up s%#t creek!

    I have looked quite a bit at the schools in the Dallas area. I can't remember for sure but I do think that there was one that offered a program on weekends. Of course it took longer but it was doable for those who still needed to hold a job. I am not much help though because I can't remember who it was. Try doing a search for Texas CDL school and call them up. That is what I did. I know here where I live, in Denison which is about an hour north of Dallas, there is Grayson County College and the school is supposed to be good but it costs $4100. I also think that El Centro in Dallas offers CDL training. You might check that out.

    So far I have found that you won't have much trouble finding a company to hire you in this area. Dallas is a good location to be in.

    I am just about to start out myself so I don't have any experience yet, but I would be glad to try and answer any questions you have. I have been doing tons of research before taking the plunge.

    I can't tell you from experience about being an o/o but from what I hear on the board here, they say to wait at least a few years so that you learn the industry and to keep track of all your expenses so you can see what the "real" costs are. I have also heard that the lease programs are a total ripoff and only benefit the company. You are much better off getting a truck on your own, and since it sounds like you have good credit if you keep that up you shouldn't have a problem in a few years.

    Good luck to you and please keep us updated!
     
  9. notarps4me

    notarps4me Road Train Member

    10,311
    5,253
    Jan 1, 2007
    NASA HQ
    0
    Well; a lot depends on the co. Mavericks newbies avg over $52.5 their 1st year with weekends home. You will also either get a brand new truck or one that is 2 years old or less. If you decide to get your own truck you are better off to get it yourself and lease on with someone. Some people can not go that route and most co leases are scams. Recently there have been a couple decent lease deals. Mav has one and BTC also has a good one from what I am hearing. However before you become a lease op or an O/O you need to be in a company truck I would say at least 5 years to learn the ropes. Mav's policy is 1 year OTR and if you are one of their co drivers they will sit down with you and look at your past to see if you can make it. If you do go lease and can not make it they put you back in a co truck.

    BTC has a decent lease from what I understand as well. Some say prime does, but they have had a lot of issues in the past. There are a few on here that speak well of it, but the ones I talk to out on the road tell me it is to high and that they would not recommend it. I have only spoke with 2 maverick IC's that said they could not make it. The last one was turning his truck in when I was getting mine serviced last week. He started talking to me and I asked him how long he had been an IC. He said 3 months and he started in the middle of october. I told him that is when freight slows down for most flats. Another reason to know the industry before you make the leap. It takes a good plan timed accordingly out there to survive. It is always better to learn and make mistakes in someone else's truck than to learn in yours.

    That is why I do not like co's like CRE. They prey on new drivers that don't know anything with their lease. train, drive, policy. If you read up on here you will see how in another thread on them a new student thought their trainer was making good money. He even thought he was making good money when he was training with 8 years exp and making 1000 bucks a week. I can take home that much as a solo driver and I am home on weekends. CRE's reputation is to belly up a person and it happens over and over again and newbies still flock there for the slaughter.:biggrin_2554:
     
  10. BigDaddyJollyRob

    BigDaddyJollyRob <strong>"El Oso"</strong>

    616
    38
    Nov 10, 2007
    WARWICK,RI
    0
    Best of Luck,Trucking here you come. Stay away from the lease programs.get your feet wet then look into getting your own rig. My $.02
     
  11. PTX

    PTX "Electronically Involved"

    86
    3
    Jan 29, 2008
    Dallas, TX
    0
    I read this on Maverick's site:

    I've read good things about Maverick over the last few days since I joined the forum (not sure why I never heard of them before?) but I gotta ask... is an "electronic shift transmission" a fancy way of saying automatic?

    I can't stand an automatic- and maybe a heavy duty truck's auto is different, but I like to float in and out of whichever gear meets my needs for the immediate condition, and can't abide a cantankerous device thinking for me. :)

    So, considering everything good I've read about people's experiences with Maverick, I have to ask... can I get a truck with a "me shift" transmission? :D
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.