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Old 02.18.2008
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Hello again, I've been out with a trainer for 19 days for Crete Carrier and had to get home for a personal issue and to request a new trainer. He had me going off duty while fueling the truck which I know is wrong and should be on line 4, however I'm not clear on the drop and hook. When we arrive at the
consignee and drop our load, we then pick up another empty trailer he has
me log 15 min for a drop. We do not put the "new" trailer # on our
log. Then when we get to a new shipper, we log 15 min for a hook. I
thought you were supposed to log 15 and 15 as you go, not one here and
one there. Is This Wrong?
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you need to log at least 15 minutes for fueling at my company.

We usually log just 15 minutes for drop and hook---if there at the same location.

also i always write the seperate trailers on log sheet.

If in doubt contact your log department .

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you need to log at least 15 minutes for fueling at my company.

We usually log just 15 minutes for drop and hook---if there at the same location.

also i always write the seperate trailers on log sheet.

If in doubt contact your log department .
Yes I agree with you, for a drop and hook I'd log 15 mins on line 4 if they were at the same place. Also I would log 15 mins for fueling as long as I am the one pumping the fuel. Some of the places we go to are "Full Serve" and I will log that time as either Line 1 or line 2 as I'm not "working". This one is probably debateable but it saves you a bit on your 70 at the end of the week and here in Canada any oof-duty or sleper time during the day can extend your 14hr by up to 2hrs to give a 16hr day. But ignore that if your in the US all the time.
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Yes I agree with you, for a drop and hook I'd log 15 mins on line 4 if they were at the same place. Also I would log 15 mins for fueling as long as I am the one pumping the fuel. Some of the places we go to are "Full Serve" and I will log that time as either Line 1 or line 2 as I'm not "working". This one is probably debateable but it saves you a bit on your 70 at the end of the week and here in Canada any oof-duty or sleper time during the day can extend your 14hr by up to 2hrs to give a 16hr day. But ignore that if your in the US all the time.
Anytime you drop or hook it's on-duty not driving. Any time you fuel it's on-duty not driving. On the fueling part one should read FMCSR §392.50. You should be in control so (a), (b),(c),(d) are meet.
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Anytime you drop or hook it's on-duty not driving. Any time you fuel it's on-duty not driving. On the fueling part one should read FMCSR §392.50. You should be in control so (a), (b),(c),(d) are meet.
You are correct with that, I agree that that is the "official" way to do it and when I'm in the US i do log fueling as line 4 even if it's full serve as line 1 or 2 will not help me much. However in Canada I will log line 1 or 2 for fueling at a full serve place bucause it will help me extend my 14. I understand that this may not be the 1005 by the book way but it is the "real world" way.

That being said since this is a thread focused towards newer drivers I should probably stay with the "book" version as to not cause confusion. Logging fueling the right way would be to log line 4. It will save potential problems for you if someone were to question it.
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I always show 15 minutes on duty not driving for any function such as; Fueling, drop+hook, Pre-trips, Post-trips, shipper load, receiver unload, etc.

Many drivers will "flag" these activities and attach a time to said flag. This will actually increase your average speed for the hour you flagged the time from so be careful.

The whole concept is to limit your time on line 4 so you will have that time available for line 3 (which is where you make your money).
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You are correct. You must show 30 min # customer no matter how little time it takes. Though, I agree. It does not take 30 mins to do a drop & hook. They sign my paycheck so Ill log it however they like.
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