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lilillill · **^ Top** #11 05.14.2008

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Originally Posted by cloberg

latly i have found out that peanut butter will help clean out your system. eat two big tubs of peanut butter.

LMAO... peanut butter... uh... right!

Actually, lately I found out by trial and error that eating two big tubs of sorbitol-laden sugarless ice cream will clean out your system too. Six hours on the can and I don't have even one turd left in me.

gwwheels · **^ Top** #12 05.18.2008

I don't know of any SAP that don't cost you. I went through a SAP that cost 700.00. I am a veteran so the therapy I went through was free through a VA hospital. That saved me a lot of money alone, but the SAP counselor charges for the evaluation and release to safety sensitive duties. On top of that to meet DOT requirements you have to pass a minimum 12 random drops in a years time. This comes out of your pocket. Then have fun trying to find some one to hire you. Most companies want two years now for insurance purposes. Most companies I have gone to, will not touch me. At least for three years if at all. I don't mean to burst your bubble driver, but this is the reality of it. However, I did complete my SAP and if someone knows of companies that will hire a driver after SAP please let me know. Especially in the Grand Rapids Michigan area.

danc694u · **^ Top** #13 05.18.2008

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Originally Posted by ACT RIGHT

....snipped......but he did separate the urine sample into two cups, and labeled them with two different stickers/labels. Now what happened to them after that i have no idea. ...snipped.......

What happened after that?

The next step in the chain of custody, is yours. Did you initial those labels?

GasHauler · **^ Top** #14 05.18.2008

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Originally Posted by baseballswthrt

Drug testing is conducted by analyzing a driver's urine specimen. The analysis is performed at laboratories certified and monitored by the Department of Health and Human Services (DHHS). The list of DHHS approved laboratories is published monthly in the Federal Register. The driver provides a urine specimen in a location that affords privacy and the "collector" seals and labels the specimen, completes a chain of custody document, and prepares the specimen and accompanying paperwork for shipment to a drug-testing laboratory. The specimen collection procedures and chain of custody ensure that the specimen's security; proper identification and integrity are not compromised. The Omnibus Transportation Employee Testing Act of 1991 requires that drug testing procedures for commercial motor vehicle drivers include split specimen procedures. Each urine specimen is subdivided into two bottles labeled as a "primary" and a "split" specimen. Both bottles are sent to a laboratory. Only the primary specimen is opened and used for the urinalysis. The split specimen bottle remains sealed and is stored at the laboratory. If the analysis of the primary specimen confirms the presence of illegal, controlled substances, the driver has 72 hours to request the split specimen be sent to another DHHS-certified laboratory for analysis. This split specimen procedure essentially provides the driver with an opportunity for a "second opinion"
I would ask that they test the second specimen. Poppy seeds don't show up as THC.

That's the way it should work but it doesn't all the time. I've seen the collector place the specimen on the table unsealed and then take the driver upstairs for other tests. It would be nice if the world followed what they're required to follow but it just doesn't happen.

notarps4me · **^ Top** #15 05.18.2008

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Originally Posted by GasHauler

That's the way it should work but it doesn't all the time. I've seen the collector place the specimen on the table unsealed and then take the driver upstairs for other tests. It would be nice if the world followed what they're required to follow but it just doesn't happen.

Why doesn't the driver question this?

danc694u · **^ Top** #16 05.18.2008

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Originally Posted by GasHauler

That's the way it should work but it doesn't all the time. I've seen the collector place the specimen on the table unsealed and then take the driver upstairs for other tests. It would be nice if the world followed what they're required to follow but it just doesn't happen.

It doesn't work that way in my world. If I see it happen, to me or anyone with me. I'm going to raise Holy Hell !

Of course some of the new guys don't know the rules. It's a leanring process. Some of us, just never get the chance to learn.

Lurchgs · **^ Top** #17 05.18.2008

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Originally Posted by danc694u

It doesn't work that way in my world. If I see it happen, to me or anyone with me. I'm going to raise Holy Hell !

Of course some of the new guys don't know the rules. It's a leanring process. Some of us, just never get the chance to learn.

Absolutely. Though anybody who's spent time in the military should be familiar with the process - it's essentially identical (or was, when I was still active duty)

I strongly encourage any driver, student, wannabe driver, to take a look at the FMCSR site before your next test. Read and become at least passingly familiar with the process . If there is *any* deviation from the approved steps, the whole test is void.

This is important stuff. An incorrect result can put a bad driver on the road, and can remove a good driver from a career. Do NOT simply accept that "they know what they are doing". Make sure they are, to the best of your ability. It's your sitdownupon that you are covering.

gwwheels · **^ Top** #18 05.19.2008

I was at a company in Davenport Ia. for orientation. I was told that something was wrong with my test, that they had found something. They never said what it was and sent me packing.(left me stranded in Iowa) I made my way home and then got a call from the company to call the MOR. They asked some questions and told me they found cocaine in my test. I asked for the split sample to be done. To the best of my knowledge they never did it. Now it's on my DAC. I have completed a SAP program. Still can't find any work.

im6under · **^ Top** #19 05.19.2008

It's kinda late for this BUT: FOR FUTURE REFERENCE...

I worried about false positives... call me paranoid....

I did my own test at an approved facility ($60.00) and included it with my job application. Went to Transport America and they did another one of course.

I had a "clean" paper in my pocket already... and was thinking if I got screwed I'd freak out and pay for another one and then pitch holy heck to the lab, the company, and my lawyer.

Never happened of course, but I was prepared just in case.

Paranoid/prepared can have its advantages...

Joe Dirt · **^ Top** #20 05.19.2008

Wasn't this poppy seed thing on Seinfeld?

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