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Thrifty · **^ Top** #1 08.18.2008

Any idea what this means?

I have one speeding ticket: 9 mph over the limit, on my driving record.

I also have one at-fault accident from early 2007: rear ended a pickup truck. No injuries, but my car did have to be towed away.

Both of these were in my personal car.

Any idea what will show up when companies check my record? Is the accident a part of my MVR or can I get away without mentioning that? How many at fault accidents can you have before your trucking career is torpedoed?

munrkr · **^ Top** #2 08.18.2008

I just googled "good driving record". It seems it's up to the state to define it. No more than 2 minor violations in past 3 years seems most common. I think it's odd the few I looked at didn't mention at-fault accidents. As far as being hired as a student truck driver... I'll let others comment. Good luck!

Cybergal · **^ Top** #3 08.18.2008

Personal vehicle mishaps do show up.

Thrifty · **^ Top** #4 08.19.2008

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Originally Posted by Cybergal

Personal vehicle mishaps do show up.

I was talking with a driver recruiter at Driver Solutions, and he told me that after pulling up my driving record, there was no mention of this accident. All he saw was a single ticket for driving 9 MPH over the speed limit.

Any idea why that accident appears to be nonexistent? I'd ask if that's on my DAC report, but since I've never been employed as a trucker, I don't have a DAC report.

firstcav · **^ Top** #5 08.19.2008

Don't try to hide it. The driving school may or may not catch that informatrion. They really don't care. They'll take your money, put in you in class and get you a CDL. Now rather or not you can find a job after that is your problem.

Most companies for starting drivers will find this information. And if you didn't disclose it, or tried to hide it they will fire you.

Start looking at companies you want to drive for. Check their requirements. 1 ticket, 1 at fault accident will probably be okay. Just don't try to hide it.

25(2)+2 · **^ Top** #6 08.19.2008

Were you cited in the accident, and did you get convicted, oftentimes, there is no ticket, it is an insurance thing, also if no one was injured, there seldom is a ticket. The 9 over speeding can be, if you were 9 over in a 70 mph area in Iowa, it is a points violation, but in a 55 and under, it isn't. The trouble with those no points violations is that they are on your insurance and on your MVR.

Disclose the accident if asked, small companies may or may not, big companies will. If no one was hurt(non personal injury), it probably won't affect you in getting hired, but if for some reason the carrier's insurance company doesn't like you, you will not get hired, there are too many people out there they don't object to, plenty of people wanting to drive trucks.

firstcav · **^ Top** #7 08.19.2008

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Originally Posted by 25(2)+2

If no one was hurt(non personal injury), it probably won't affect you in getting hired, but if for some reason the carrier's insurance company doesn't like you, you will not get hired, there are too many people out there they don't object to, plenty of people wanting to drive trucks.

That's what I understand too. It's not the company making the decision, it's the insurance underwriter. If the companies insurance won't cover you, then they can't use you.

AfterShock · **^ Top** #8 08.19.2008

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Originally Posted by Thrifty

Any idea what this means?

If I were to venture a guess, it'd be that "acceptable" means you're still within the limits of what's allowed to be on your driving record and still be employable by a Big truck truckin' company IF their insurance carrier agrees.
But, that's just my guess.

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I have one speeding ticket: 9 mph over the limit, on my driving record.

I also have one at-fault accident from early 2007: rear ended a pickup truck. No injuries, but my car did have to be towed away.

How far apart was your speeding ticket to your at-fault crash?
Aside from drug related incidents, speeding and crashing are frowned upon by many truckin' companies.
Like 25(2)+2 mentioned, due to the current trend truckin' companies have many applicants seeking employment at this time which can make it more difficult to be considered for employment if other wannaBees have a clean driving record compared to your blemished driving record.

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Both of these were in my personal car.

Makes no difference in their eyes. A speeding ticket is a speeding ticket and a crash is a crash.
Welcome to the wonderful world of Big truck truckin'.

Here's another thing to ponder -----
If and when you obtain a Class A driver's license, not only will everything you do in your personal vehicle count on your professional driver's license, but your BAC (blood/alcohol content) will be the same in a Big truck as it is in your personal vehicle.

Class C drivers are considered drunk with a count of 0.08 --- but you will be limited to 0.04, even in your personal vehicle while on your own time.
Responsibility goes with that Class A license.

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Any idea what will show up when companies check my record?

Nope!
I sure don't. But, be advised --- truckin' companies do a pretty thorough pre-hire background check. If they find it, and you didn't mention it, there's that part on the application that states ANY falsification is reason for IMMEDIATE disqualification and/or termination.
I don't know if that would be put on a DAC record, or not. But if it were me, I wouldn't take the chance.

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Is the accident a part of my MVR or can I get away without mentioning that?

It's possible, I suppose, that you could omit mentioning it and get away with it --- for the time being.
BUT, imagine if you were hired and been with the company for a year or more, and they DID find out later?
Falsification by omission on your employment application would still count and they'd likely terminate you for that, and that probably WOULD appear on your DAC record because you'd then be a Big truck truck driver.
Would you want your next potential employer to read that report?
How much farther do you reckon they'd read after that? Your application for employment would probably be placed in their circular file. (Read, in the trash can)

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How many at fault accidents can you have before your trucking career is torpedoed?

How many "at fault accidents" do you think you'll accumulate? Personally, I wouldn't be too concerned about how MANY you can have. But rather set your mind that you don't intend to have ANY more than you already do.

As the holder of a Class A driver's license, you're considered a PROFESSIONAL driver. As such, you should BE a professional driver in whatever vehicle you're driving. Safety is NO accident. Part of being a PROFESSIONAL driver is knowing how to AVOID citations and crashes AT ALL TIMES. Big truck truckin' is SERIOUS business. If you don't think you're capable of avoiding citations and/or crashes at this time, perhaps you should consider another vocation until you have the proper mind-set. That being that you'll avoid the pit-falls that common drivers seem to fall into.

It's VERY important to keep your driving record CLEAN. Especially if you plan to advance in the Big truck truckin' industry. A spotless record can and WILL open doors. A spotty driving record can and WILL cause those same doors to remain shut.

If you think you can handle the program, I wish you the best of success. If not, your success is doubtful.
You CAN do this!
And you SHOULD.
But, ultimately, it's ALL up to you.
A good attitude is everything.
Without it, even ability and/or aptitude won't be enough to ensure success.

It's said that honesty is the BEST policy.
It's your decision.
I hope you'll make the right decision.

BTW --- WELCOME to the forums!
My best advice to you is to continue reading and researching here. And please realize I'm NOT trying to discourage you, but rather ENcourage you to look at the bigger picture before you make a mistake that could cause you to be "torpedoed" before you even get out of the harbor.

munrkr · **^ Top** #9 08.19.2008

For what it's worth... I pulled my mvr a year or two ago and the accidents I was involved in (4, I think) were listed. Just a few months after that I had to pull it again for another employer, and to my amazement they had vanished! Not due to the passing of time, (went back 5 years?), but they just simply did not appear. Strange, but true. I did list the accidents on my application, and also noted the discrepency. Just an erroneous error I guess...?

AfterShock · **^ Top** #10 08.19.2008

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Originally Posted by munrkr

For what it's worth... I pulled my mvr a year or two ago and the accidents I was involved in (4, I think) were listed. Just a few months after that I had to pull it again for another employer, and to my amazement they had vanished! Not due to the passing of time, (went back 5 years?), but they just simply did not appear. Strange, but true. I did list the accidents on my application, and also noted the discrepency. Just an erroneous error I guess...?

WoW!
How cool is THAT?!
I sure hope you didn't demand that they RE-appear.

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