Well, I hope this isn't redundant ... and if it is I apologize ... just send me in the right direction ... BUT:

HOW/WHEN DOES A RECRUITER GET PAID?

I've had this burning question in the back of my mind since I started looking at trucking companies. I've read/heard that recruiters get paid when you get accepted into their trucking school - period, whether you make it past day 3, pass or not ... but is this true? Basically, I want to make sure that when I get recruited to a company school, it's legit and there's nothing that will fowl anything up for me. I have also heard that recruiters get paid for getting you to school and get paid again once you pass and are employable.

Does anyone have any experience with this? Can someone help me out?

In advance, thank you.

__________________



And it's official: I Start school in Lewiston, ID - 15 Oct 08

by lying to drivers

__________________
men and women are dying everyday around the globe FOR US to defend OUR RIGHTS and I will not dishonor their sacrifices by giving up those Rights with pathetic and non needed compliance and butt kissing

I can't answer for all companies, obviously. But the one that I do know about, the recruiter gets paid when you get hired. They only take experienced drivers, so there is no school involved, nor driver trainers. They also get a small sum if you stay with the company for a period of time. I don't know what this time is however.

BUT KNOW THIS: Only successful used car salespeople make good recruiters. In other words "tell 'em ANYTHING, but get them to sign up!"

__________________

So what all you folks are saying is: "To tell when a recruiter is lieing is easy. If his lips are moving he is lieing to me!"

Sound right?

Does same go for school recruiters?

Sorry been looking into this as a 2nd career since being laid off as it is something that has interested me for a very long time. Must say the reality of it all could cause the Pope to think twice.

Greatful there are those who jump in anyway or we'd all be raising veggies, cows and sheep to survive...

How do recruiters get paid?







Per soul.

Actually school recruiters can be even worse. I've known of folks who have completed schools who stand no chance of being hired because of their past history. The schools know this as well, but could care less. THEY are not the ones hiring them, they are just looking for the bucks.

__________________

see, this kind of stuff scares the poo out of me. how is one to know that they won't be taken advantage of? i mean, okay, if you have a dui that would make sense --- probably not a lot of commercial driving operations willing to take you on. but what about the guys with a couple of tickets or a recent (more than a year old) suspension ... what are they to do? they could just think "well all be derned, i done got lucky this time" only to find out that the school rode them hard and put 'em away wet to the tune of $4995.

horror stories are good, but how the heck can someone keep from being taken advantage of by either a school or a company? Do companies engage in this practice also? Is the 4000 dollars really worth it to the company to take a person out to school on a bus, send em back, etc?

__________________



And it's official: I Start school in Lewiston, ID - 15 Oct 08

Be afraid. Be VERY afraid.

Well OK, perhaps you don't need to be quite that afraid.

It might be a good idea to do some checking before you sign up with any school. I would start with The Better Business Bureau to see if there are complaints, and if so, how they were resolved.

Perhaps othes on this board have more ideas that I do about who to check with for schooling.

Just be sure that if you decide to do this, go in with your eyes open. Obviously there are legitimet schools out there. The vast majority of us have been through some type of truck driving school.

__________________

I'd do a couple of things:

1) go talk to the dmv. This may sound silly but they have a list of qualifications you can look over.

2) go talk to a few companies, especially the ones you don't quaLIFY FOR... meaning non-training companies.

"hi, I know you only hire guys with 3 years experience and I have zero but I'd like to work for you some day... what are the qualifications I need??? can I have a speeding ticket, accident, felony, and how old must they be?" do I need four seasons experience, local or otr ??? does delivering pizzas count as experience?


If you really want to drive a truck, some #### company somewhere will hire you... you might not make squat and be over worked but it will be a job.

To me the better idea is to NOT want to drive a truck but to WANT to make money. Then consider trucking as just one of many ways to accomplish this goal.

driving truck is driving truck, van, flatbed, tanker, its close to all the same... sitting in the seat steering it down the road.

how much physical labor you'll put out can determine which you choose, as well as, what's your tolerance for danger??? over-size, overweight, or hazzardous chemicals will pay better than groceries...

tarped flatbed loads will pay better than groceries... refer pays better than dry van...

dry van drop and hook will generally pay the least so you have to really keep moving to make decent coinage... long hours and generally away from home for several weeks.

you have a picture in your head of what trucking is... go out and find a company that matches this picture and you'll probably be happy...

ask them what you need to do to qualify... they'll tell you... then you can work down the checklist of things you need to accomplish.


Before I had a permit or went to school I talked to (brain-fade) the guys that advertize 54 cents a mile in iowa... lol and I also talked to barr nun.

both told me I don't qualify, ect... ect... but go talk to... (they both listed several starter companies) get a year with them, then come talk to us and if you haven't wrecked a truck we'll hire you... we hire away from those guys all the time.

So I went to a ptdi certified school and hired on with transport america.

My goals and opportunities changed so I never called back to barr nunn or jeezzzz brain fade... wasn't west side... crap.... lol

anyways... it was a process... but it worked and worked out well for me.

setting a goal works... and setting a goal that isn't firm works even better...

whatever you do... just realize it ain't bj and the bear... you are gonna work for every dollar they hand you...

__________________
Though your argument is very clever, I don't think it will lead to the results you desire. gandhi