Dance i think you may use the exact same log book as me, with the same company name as well, i think its you. how would you go about doing this? what would you do if you were me?
its the big book. i think im going to do that, i think ill use the above mentiond holders. that wat i dont have to worry about coming up short in my book.
i have never seen any type of rule written as far as how may days can/cant be in a log book. but always "assumed" that 30 days in a month, 33 pages in a log, you should always have some spare's.....anyway. thanks for the response. and if you are a fellow driver of mine, PM,

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I use the big log book. And use a clip board holder like the aluminum, except it's plastic. When I finish a page, I place it inside. If I need to correct a page, I trash it and start over. I'm always mindful of my trash, it gets tossed at the first availible place. Personal information blacked out of course.

If you have an accident, while using the method you described. They will search your truck. Old and munipulated logs, are evidence. Keep that in mind.

I never carry more pages than are required by law, unless I haven't been by the terminal or the house in awhile. Even then, I may remove extra papers and file them in my briefcase (combination locks).

I've started on the 1st of the month, with only 2 or 3 pages in the whole book. The 7 previous days are inside the binder. So it's not a biggy. The DOT knows what you are doing and why you are doing it. But they still have to prove it. Don't make it easy for them.

If your pages are preforated for easy removal....just do it.

I dunno what company you work for. Mine is plastered all over this forum

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You mean like when they asked for the last seven days and I gave him four log books?







And yes, I now run looseleaf.

I know this guy...

he took and tore out the perforated pages from 5 months worth of new log "books" and went to the local office supply house with them...

There, a nice young lady, clamped them togather between two boards, all nice and straight with the left hand side level with the top of the boards.

she painted some red rubbery sticky stuff on the boards and exposed paper ends.

after drying, this guy had an offical "log-pad". Much more convenient to use... and doesn't appear to be a drivers loose leaf job.

cost: free... basically.
The jar of goo was less then 5 bucks and will do 1000's of pages.

Professionally bound log/pad: priceless

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ok, so let me see if i got this right, and if i dont, pls help me out...
here is what i am going to do.
im going to get a " log " holder from staples. just as the one mentioned above. and im going to take my log book and remove the staples and tear along the preferated edge and keep them in my holder? and allowing and keeping more then a months worth, maybe like 5 extra pages in it.
and no i never keep an " old " log sheet in my truck, it usually gets torn up and tossed in the trash. outside of my truck.
is this the whole idea???
dance ill search and see if we work at the same place...
thanks

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No no no....

Just use the clamp on the lid to hold your entire log book. Tear the pages off as you go, and place them inside.

Always keep 7 inside, plus one on top and in use. For a total of 8 pages.

And don't throw your old ones away. Unless they are corrected logs, then throw the old one away...before you move the truck.

Always keep your old logs, at home. This is how the IRS figures your per diem if you get audited.

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Dance, im sorry if im not understanding what you are saying, i just want to make sure that i am going to do this the right way, without getting caught my the DOT,
here is how i do it now.
i take my whole log book, and i work that entire book for the month, i never rip any pages out, except for the ones i hand in. all the other pages stay where they are, stapled. and in the book. and i keep that going for the whole month.
if i am understand you the right way, this is what i think you are saying,
you are telling me to only keep 8 days worth of logs in my truck right?
8 days only, cause by law thats what we have to keep with us at all times....
i just want to release myself of the pressure of ripping out old logs and " corrtecting " them...
please explain it to me if i am misunderstand what your telling me...
also.. on a side note, a fellow driver told me that he takes his whole months log book apart, takes a 3-whole punch, punches holes in the logs and puts them in a 3 ring folder and runs it that way, so he could " fix " certian days.... yay or nay on this???

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and also dance, i just checked my old PM's, and yes, you and i work for the same company... i run out of NJ.

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You can do it either way...punch the holes or rip them out as you go. It amounts to the same thing.

Or you can keep your entire book together. And turn in what pages you need, while tearing out the corrections. The folder just gives you a place to store the torn out pages that you keep and turn in. It also hides the fact that you may have used more pages than you should have from that log book...for that month

Folding the cover over, and placing it atop the clamp board. You have a new page. When done. Rip it out, place inside folder...next...new page on top for the next day repeat every day.

I know a driver who keeps a stack of sheets in his bunk. He never has more than 8 pages accessible at any time.

ANY WAY you do it, so long as you have today and the previous 7 days availible for inspection...you're good to go with a DOT inspection. Unless it's Federal DOT. And that's not likely to happen in your lifetime.

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ok ok ok, dance thanks a ton, i feel a lot better now, ill sleep on it 2nite and decide what ill do. i like them both, like i said, i dont ever leave till late late sunday night, and i run pass/through DOT up in NY almost every other day.
and i never keep a corrected log in my truck, as soon as i correct it, i toss it, to much at risk to hold on, and im home every weekend, so i like the idea of keeping only the 8 days in my possasion at any given time as well....
i also keep my log book clean and nice, pages always and held together with a paper clip upto my 7th day. always use a ruler. always print clearly. and i log as i go.
again, thanks for all the tips, and ill let you no during the week how im making out.

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