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Old 09.29.2008
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my hat is off to you for enduring as long as you have. i can't imagine being in a truck that long with 2 other people, and one of them being a jerk to boot. 2 years is hardly enough experience to earn the title "trainer"

backing and shifting WILL come with time. good luck
Thanks. Hopefully we're testing out next Monday. If, God willling, we pass, then it's home for a few days to see the family. I'm missing them horribly, which doesn't help.

Send us good driving/backing thoughts on Monday....
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Hears a little tip you might want to think about. You can go to Radio Shack or a place like that and buy a couple of walkie talkies and then when you and your husband have to back one can run around and watch and tell the driver where to go. It might save a scratch or a dent and who cares what others think anyway? If I saw you doing this or practicing I would think you're a good team trying your best to do a good job. So the heck what anyone thinks or says.
HeY!?
What about trainers?
I did exactly as you've described when I was training. But y'all don't need a couple of walkie-talkies if there's a CB in the Big truck.
Just pick a quiet channel, put the walkie-talkie in LOW power, and guide 'em right in.
Also comes in handy when one driver is away from the Big truck, and the co-driver can radio instructions from the shipping/receiving office --- a quarter mile away.

A great suggestion, and I'd expect no less from you, GH.

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This is just my opinion but I don`t understand how anybody with less than 5 years is qualified to teach or train.
Allow me to use myself as an example and possible answer to your question.
With about a year and a half Big truck truck drivin' experience, with a spotless record, I was asked to become a driver trainer.
At first I balked for the reason you've mentioned, my inexperience.
Long story short --- I was talked into it.
Short story long --- within about a year of training, I was turnin' out a good, quality product --- that being a qualified to take it from there rookie.
I was known as the "Mellowest Trainer" to the trainees, and the front office noticed that my trainees lasted longer than one year with the company. Several, I hear, are still with that company, known for providing one of the best training programs.

So, I present the question,
WaS I "qualified" for the position of driver trainer?
Don't judge a cook by the cover of his cookbook.
NopE!
The proof is in the puddin', ........ or sumthin' like that.

Know what I think?
I think that I could do what I did was in large part as direct result of freshly remembering MY trainee days, and applying methods that worked for me, and invented a few along the way. No ego.
HaiL!
Even TRAINERS can still learn.
Every trainee taught ME how to better instruct the next trainee, and the one thereafter.

I don't recall any complaints about my actual drivin' experience bein' detrimental, though. And whatever I learned, well, ...... by golly, ........ there was a trainee learin' right beside me --- OR, she was backin' the Big truck. With me watchin' -- of course.
NO!
Not her ---- The equipment.

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My sister quit high school 1 month before graduation. Doesn't sound too smart, does it???
Maybe, maybe not -------
Did she quit high school to attend Big truck truckin' school?
I quit high school 6 months prior to graduation, and look where I wound up.
Let that be a lesson.
Perhaps I shouldn' vote.

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on the other hand... long time sitting like that... sounds like a less than adequate company.
Ever heard of "payback"?
From the sound of some of these trainers, it isn't too much of a stretch to figure they probably don't, ..... shall we say, ....... "communicate" well with their dispatcher.

And remember what AfterShock told you about dispatchers having the ability of making or breaking a Big truck truck driver?
Bummers is, that trainer's(?) trainees/extra log book(s), -- suffer too (much?) as a direct result.
It is what it is, that's a fact.

You'll be dealin' with a LOT of different personalities.
The more y'all learn how to "handle" --
the easier Big truck truckin' becomes.

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When I get it right, it's when I'm working on being 'smoothe'. Light on the clutch, and so forth-what I'm trying to do is make the whole process undetectable by somebody in the trailer or even in the sleeper. A bit of a challenge for me, but I can do it more often than not, these days.

(only been in my own truck for about 4 months)

Stiff upper lip!
You have the makins' of a dream teamer.
Big trucks last, and remain dependable, for a LOT longer when driven smoothly.
Are you using you fingerTIPS when shifting?
Or the heel of your palm.
Don't grab it like a baseball.
Slip-it --- not jam-it.
The perfect "float" isn't detectable, just a drop, or rise, in RPM.
It's a BooTieFuL thang!

And, there'll be NO one around to wittness it.

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Well, when you've got some guy breathing down your neck and looking to find fault with everything you're doing, that doesn't exactly create a good atmosphere for learning or performing well.
YeAH!

Ya reckon.
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The trainer's attitude sounds very counter-productive.
Sure does, TrooperRat.
And I bet it IS (counter-productive).
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He doesn't sound like the sort of person that should be training anyone -
BuT!
IN his favor --- he DID have two years of some sort of experience. And look how much HE learned.
Can y'all just imagine WhO trained HiM?!
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a teacher has patience and doesn't sit there and rack up his own, grand, superiority every time you make a little mistake or don't do it the way he wants it done.
I doubt I could agree more.

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Neither maneuver comes to you naturally, it's a learned art - especially backing - and you WILL get it eventually if you keep at it.

YuP!
Some call it a "feel".
And once that feel is aquired, it's a hoot to conduct backin' lessons at the various places y'all will be visiting in y'all's careers.
Git 'er done.

And, like Lurch pointed out --- there WILL be daze when y'all can't even do a simple straight back.
And tomorrow, make backin' into haties look simple.
Go figure.
(My advice?
When the latter example happens, jump out and strut.
YOU deserve it.
And you KNOW it.)

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i feel your pain honestly i do,but being disrepectful to an individual is unacceptable.i had this problem with my trainer and slapped the lil punk in the face.
OhMY!
Isn't that assault and battery?
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he ran to call the police and i ran to the bus station ( ahahah)
So, it's quite possible that you're a fugitive?
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i quit the company and about to go with another.
You quit one company because you assaulted your trainer there, and now you're movin' on to another?
Is that right, so far?
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seriously being disrespectful to any one for no apparent reason will not be tolerated by me,just my opinion
Seriously, --- the LAW seems to support the rights of Big truck truck driver trainers who expect not to be slapped ANYwhere by ANYbody.
Including YoU.
And even if they are, in fact, "lil punks" who were "seriously being disrespectful" to you, ------
Two wrongs don't make a right --- and, as an added bonus, it seems the
LAW would be on HIS side.
Imagine that.

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p.s what company is this ?

Hmmmmmm
Is it just me, or does that sound kinda like
what you haulin' in your wagon?

No offense intended, but if a poster isn't forthcoming with a company name, there's often a reason for that. But it is a fair question, I suppose. And declining to answer is also fair.

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I have a tough time with a "trainer" that has only 2 years experience. If I offend some of you, I apologize, but, save for a few exceptions, at 2 years, a driver is still very green, IMO. A 2 year "veteran" with the "I know it all" or "Been there, done that" attitude is a bad choice to train anybody and just proves my point. Hell, he's still trying to convince himself, as well as everybody else, that he knows what he's doing, when in reality, he's still scared ########.

Just my $.02.
You sell yourself short, amigo.
YuP!
I'da gave you a buffalo nickel.
And considered THAT a bargain.

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Originally Posted by Willocouple View Post
Once again, thanks everyone, so very much for all of the kind words.
You're very welcome!
And, even better, what'cha are hearin' ----
is the truth.


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There's so many stories/instances I could tell, I just don't have the energy. Some are pretty amazing...some funny and some not so funny.
Take my word for it --- your WORST experiences will become your BEST trucker road stories.
You'll see --- and you'll (finally) laugh about it.
I know.

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I was sitting there watching in amazement because, for the life of me, I couldn't figure out what he was doing. The most interesting parking job I've ever seen. But, the point is, when he finally got it done, he jumps out of the truck, head held high, and be-bops right into the Pilot. I was totally impressed! I thought to myself, if he can go through all of that and still has some pep in his step, then so can I!
Keep watchin'!
That's another good way to learn.
If y'all can learn from other's mistakes, why not do it?
You'll get to where you hear yourself thinkin'
No
No
Don't turn it THAT way ---
get back UNDER it.
And YOU'LL be right.

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Anyways, just wanted to let everyone know I'm reading your postings every chance I get and I'm relaying them to my better half.
And we appreciate what'cher doin'.
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It just feels really good to get a little positive right about now.
Positive?
How many volts you want, lady?
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We're both pretty depressed and unfortunately, it's starting to affect everything, including our relationship. (Hubby had to tell trainer to keep his hands off of me, if that's any clue.)
Big trucks CAN be pretty small, HuH?

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Oh! and today was a banner day! We got to shower! Woohoo!!! We're only supposed to shower once a week but we got one 2 days early this week!! I get to lay down and not feel disgusting.
Don't celebrate too soon.
Y'all might get docked next week, and get NO shower at all.

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Enough whining for one night....sorry I guess I need some cheese to go with this whine session!
Cheese?
We have that.
Sit down and vent a spell.

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We'll be fine...I'm sorry about the whoa-is-me posting last nite. I was tired and frustrated, but today is a new day, and I drove my shift without hitting anything (except a few curbs)! So, it's a good day!
Expect that more often as you gain experience.

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We're headed to a terminal right now to finally get some laundry done (been 2 weeks and we're truely out of clothes), I'm going to scrub out this pigsty of a truck, then get somemore backing practice in and hopefully, get a good nite's sleep.
Might I say, y'all look marvelous?
It's twue
It's twue!!
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Umm, I think I'll refrain from saying until I have my own keys in my hands. Hope you understand.
i thought this was a forum to help other people from enduring what you are going through,keeping the company name a secret is like you are just complaining or condonig its actions.i just hope i dont selct the company you are with...jeeze....
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HeY!?
What about trainers?
I did exactly as you've described when I was training. But y'all don't need a couple of walkie-talkies if there's a CB in the Big truck.
Just pick a quiet channel, put the walkie-talkie in LOW power, and guide 'em right in.
Also comes in handy when one driver is away from the Big truck, and the co-driver can radio instructions from the shipping/receiving office --- a quarter mile away.

A great suggestion, and I'd expect no less from you, GH.


Allow me to use myself as an example and possible answer to your question.
With about a year and a half Big truck truck drivin' experience, with a spotless record, I was asked to become a driver trainer.
At first I balked for the reason you've mentioned, my inexperience.
Long story short --- I was talked into it.
Short story long --- within about a year of training, I was turnin' out a good, quality product --- that being a qualified to take it from there rookie.
I was known as the "Mellowest Trainer" to the trainees, and the front office noticed that my trainees lasted longer than one year with the company. Several, I hear, are still with that company, known for providing one of the best training programs.

So, I present the question,
WaS I "qualified" for the position of driver trainer?
Don't judge a cook by the cover of his cookbook.
NopE!
The proof is in the puddin', ........ or sumthin' like that.

Know what I think?
I think that I could do what I did was in large part as direct result of freshly remembering MY trainee days, and applying methods that worked for me, and invented a few along the way. No ego.
HaiL!
Even TRAINERS can still learn.
Every trainee taught ME how to better instruct the next trainee, and the one thereafter.

I don't recall any complaints about my actual drivin' experience bein' detrimental, though. And whatever I learned, well, ...... by golly, ........ there was a trainee learin' right beside me --- OR, she was backin' the Big truck. With me watchin' -- of course.
NO!
Not her ---- The equipment.

Maybe, maybe not -------
Did she quit high school to attend Big truck truckin' school?
I quit high school 6 months prior to graduation, and look where I wound up.
Let that be a lesson.
Perhaps I shouldn' vote.

Ever heard of "payback"?
From the sound of some of these trainers, it isn't too much of a stretch to figure they probably don't, ..... shall we say, ....... "communicate" well with their dispatcher.

And remember what AfterShock told you about dispatchers having the ability of making or breaking a Big truck truck driver?
Bummers is, that trainer's(?) trainees/extra log book(s), -- suffer too (much?) as a direct result.
It is what it is, that's a fact.

You'll be dealin' with a LOT of different personalities.
The more y'all learn how to "handle" --
the easier Big truck truckin' becomes.

You have the makins' of a dream teamer.
Big trucks last, and remain dependable, for a LOT longer when driven smoothly.
Are you using you fingerTIPS when shifting?
Or the heel of your palm.
Don't grab it like a baseball.
Slip-it --- not jam-it.
The perfect "float" isn't detectable, just a drop, or rise, in RPM.
It's a BooTieFuL thang!

And, there'll be NO one around to wittness it.

YeAH!

Ya reckon. Sure does, TrooperRat.
And I bet it IS (counter-productive). BuT!
IN his favor --- he DID have two years of some sort of experience. And look how much HE learned.
Can y'all just imagine WhO trained HiM?! I doubt I could agree more.


YuP!
Some call it a "feel".
And once that feel is aquired, it's a hoot to conduct backin' lessons at the various places y'all will be visiting in y'all's careers.
Git 'er done.

And, like Lurch pointed out --- there WILL be daze when y'all can't even do a simple straight back.
And tomorrow, make backin' into haties look simple.
Go figure.
(My advice?
When the latter example happens, jump out and strut.
YOU deserve it.
And you KNOW it.)

OhMY!
Isn't that assault and battery?So, it's quite possible that you're a fugitive? You quit one company because you assaulted your trainer there, and now you're movin' on to another?
Is that right, so far?Seriously, --- the LAW seems to support the rights of Big truck truck driver trainers who expect not to be slapped ANYwhere by ANYbody.
Including YoU.
And even if they are, in fact, "lil punks" who were "seriously being disrespectful" to you, ------
Two wrongs don't make a right --- and, as an added bonus, it seems the
LAW would be on HIS side.
Imagine that.


Hmmmmmm
Is it just me, or does that sound kinda like
what you haulin' in your wagon?

No offense intended, but if a poster isn't forthcoming with a company name, there's often a reason for that. But it is a fair question, I suppose. And declining to answer is also fair.

You sell yourself short, amigo.
YuP!
I'da gave you a buffalo nickel.
And considered THAT a bargain.

You're very welcome!
And, even better, what'cha are hearin' ----
is the truth.

Take my word for it --- your WORST experiences will become your BEST trucker road stories.
You'll see --- and you'll (finally) laugh about it.
I know.

Keep watchin'!
That's another good way to learn.
If y'all can learn from other's mistakes, why not do it?
You'll get to where you hear yourself thinkin'
No
No
Don't turn it THAT way ---
get back UNDER it.
And YOU'LL be right.

And we appreciate what'cher doin'. Positive?
How many volts you want, lady? Big trucks CAN be pretty small, HuH?

Don't celebrate too soon.
Y'all might get docked next week, and get NO shower at all.

Cheese?
We have that.
Sit down and vent a spell.

Expect that more often as you gain experience.

Might I say, y'all look marvelous?
It's twue
It's twue!!


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whats is the name of this company ?
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i thought this was a forum to help other people from enduring what you are going through,keeping the company name a secret is like you are just complaining or condonig its actions.i just hope i dont selct the company you are with...jeeze....

Hmmmmmmm
Doesn't sound like Durrty understands.

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a pastiche individual i must say

"Pastiche"?
Thank YeW!
Would you believe you're the first person to say that?
Up 'till now, I've been referred to as a Ponificating Dogmatist.
Pastiche is much easier to say.

But ultimately I'm a baaadd man ------->
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i thought this was a forum to help other people from enduring what you are going through,keeping the company name a secret is like you are just complaining or condonig its actions.i just hope i dont selct the company you are with...jeeze....
Truth be told, her divulging the name of the company probably wouldn't help you in the least. It might be a great company and they got stuck with the exception rather than the rule, where their trainers are concerned. Doesn't matter to which company you go, you risk being placed with a know-it-all loudmouth like Willocouple did. Or you may end up with a surly cuss that treats yyou like something he just scraped off his shoe. She would be saving you from nothing by giving up the company, however, if the wrong person reads the post and she had divulged the info, who knows what kind of headaches she might face as a result.
Something to think about.
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Truth be told, her divulging the name of the company probably wouldn't help you in the least. It might be a great company and they got stuck with the exception rather than the rule, where their trainers are concerned. Doesn't matter to which company you go, you risk being placed with a know-it-all loudmouth like Willocouple did. Or you may end up with a surly cuss that treats yyou like something he just scraped off his shoe. She would be saving you from nothing by giving up the company, however, if the wrong person reads the post and she had divulged the info, who knows what kind of headaches she might face as a result.
Something to think about.

YuP!

Great explanation and very well presented, Joetro.
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Aftershock, I've always enjoyed your rebuttal postings to other posts and I'm honored you took the time to post on mine. Thanks for all of the advice/honesty/perspective.

Joetro, thanks for the back-up. I figured descretion would be self-explanatory, but I guess I was wrong.

Durrty, my experience doesn't reflect on the company good or bad. I haven't complained to the company, so they haven't had the chance to correct the situation. We knew we would have to have a "suck-it-up" attitude going into this. We also knew we could request another trainer, if we needed to, but chose to stick it out with this one, for a few reasons. So, I guess in part you're right. I'm just complaining at this point.... and I admit, I felt better after getting some of it off my chest. It also helped a lot to get the positive reinforcement. Sometimes you just need to vent, so you DON'T blow...you know what I mean?

Tinglish, thanks for the encouragement!
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Aftershock, I've always enjoyed your rebuttal postings to other posts and I'm honored you took the time to post on mine. Thanks for all of the advice/honesty/perspective.

Believe me, it was my pleasure,
ANYtime --- and you're very welcome.
I have a feelin' y'all are worth the time I spent, and much more than that.
Call it an "investment".
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