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Old 10.16.2008
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Place the feet of an extension ladder in the bed of a pickup truck for safety and get on top of the trailer with a shovel. Ice may have to be cracked with a heavy hammer.
Two points.
1. Who brings a pick-up truck and ladder along with them to use?
2. How "safe" is that for the driver, or whomever is doing the climbing?

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well, re the brush idea:

1: put it over a pit that can be shoveled out with ..oh, an end loader or bobcat

2: angle the brush at about 45 degrees so all the snow comes off the side of the trailer, and then down a slope to a pit.

put these things at a truck stop, charge a couple bux to go through them (just like a scale) and there you go.

As for me - at 300+ pounds, I'm not at all sure that a trailer roof would support me in the summer time, much less than any time it has a ton of snow on top.

And I'm forced to wonder at the legality of such a law. I'm sure they see it as "safe operation of a CMV".. but . oh well, I'm not a Lawyer, and I for sure didn't stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night
I only stay in flop houses --- usually near airports, where they use a liquid DE-Icer to get the ice off of the airplanes.
Spray on --- Ice off.
Just install a DE-Icer facility on every corner of the block in every city for Big trucks to drive under.

Of course, GETTING to one of those DE-Icers will probably be enough to dislodge the ice on the top of trailer, defeating the need for DE-Icing.

Seein' as how DE-Icing the trailer tops is so impractical, why not just wait until spring thaw before moving an iced trailer on the highway?
I'm sure the drivers won't mind waiting.


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speaking of snow on trailer tops, if its wet snow or ice which can be pretty heavy, how does that affect ur trailer weight when u have to go thru weigh stations? Can u be fined for being overweight?

Yes.
Overweight is overweight in the eyes of the law.
Ice on top of a trailer or packed under the Big truck and/or trailer all add up and can cause an over axle and/or over gross weight.
Again, y'all just have to wait 'till spring to be legal.
Or remove it yourself.
(Only to pick up more as y'all are rolling down the highway, collecting one overweight citation after another)
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Also read this post on this issue >> New York bill would toughen rules for snow-free vehicles
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yes if you get a build up snow and ice on the bottom of the trailer they will stop you. 2 winters ago i was coming across 90 out of new york and pa in some lake effect snow and when i got to ohio it had stopped snowing and the scale was open. they stopped me and made me knock off as much of it off as i could so i would be under weight on the trailer axles.
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So if they force me to climb onto my trailer to remove the snow, can I sue if I fall?
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So if they force me to climb onto my trailer to remove the snow, can I sue if I fall?

Sue the government?
Sure!
Why not?
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wait! wait! wait! let NOT forget that the flatbed drivivers sometimes have to clime up 13 6 to tarp their loads..... so there should be no reason the van drivers should not be able to clean our roofs off...
, im 75 years old with an old frittle body, and bad knees. i cant get on my roof to clean it off. thats what im tellin them!
if the DOT wants our roofs kept clean at all time, then why the heck dont THEY get up there and do it for us!!!!!!!!
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I only stay in flop houses --- usually near airports, where they use a liquid DE-Icer to get the ice off of the airplanes.
Spray on --- Ice off.
Just install a DE-Icer facility on every corner of the block in every city for Big trucks to drive under.

Of course, GETTING to one of those DE-Icers will probably be enough to dislodge the ice on the top of trailer, defeating the need for DE-Icing.

Seein' as how DE-Icing the trailer tops is so impractical, why not just wait until spring thaw before moving an iced trailer on the highway?
I'm sure the drivers won't mind waiting.

LOL

Truth be told, though, I actually did consider the de-icer routine. For about 3 seconds. That stuff is expensive, so not terribly practical. Furthermore, it's of limited use against more than a thin layer of ice. (a thin layer of ice on a big airplane can weigh in as a heck of a lot)

I do like the idea of waiting for the spring thaw, though.

Either that, or move all the trucking industry down to below the snow line and make all the manufacturers and consumers move there too
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well ive come up with a rudimentary 3d model design. (the benefit of taking product design class in HS) at the exits of truck stops (where the most trucks will pass thru) a metal framework. coming off that framework hanging down is like a shock absorber. attached to the shock is a metal framework kinda shaped like a skeleton of a V plow, which the actual face of the plow is hard plastic (to save weight). the plow would have either a metal or hard plactic edge, with 2 roller wheels spaced about 4 ft apart, with an angled up guide track for vans that are slightly taller than 13 6 so the top wont just slam into it. set the bottom edge height to about 13 5, when a truck pulls up, the guide tracks travel up the front edge, and once over the edge the roller wheels keep the blade just off the top to prevent scraping which removes paint and leads to rust. the v blade splits the ice/snow and pushes it off to the sides, where it came be collected and moved via bobcat bucketloader etc. then for summer months, un bolt the top cross span, remove, and you have no problem handling overhieght loads.

What y'all think? Wouldnt take more than 1 min to clean all but like 1/4 an inch off, effective, no major delays, and other than the initial purchase/install wouldnt cost a damn thing to maintain. but we all know the truck stops would STILL charge like 3 4 bucks to use it lol.
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I don't about where you all are from but up here in Minnesota we used to just have a shovel/ rake kind of tool on a long pole which came in sections for your choice of length. It worked quite well for getting the heavy snow off the roof of the house. And it's portable and easy to store. Something like it could be used by drivers with some minor adjustments. And perhaps a hammer type of attachment for breaking the ice. Would sell more units that way and cost over all would be less. Keep it simple that would be the best way to go about it rather than some big honking expensive machine. Also on another note I would go to a truck wash and have them power spray the snow and ice off and get the truck clean at the same time. Thats what I used to do to take care of it.
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well ive come up with a rudimentary 3d model design. (the benefit of taking product design class in HS) at the exits of truck stops (where the most trucks will pass thru) a metal framework. coming off that framework hanging down is like a shock absorber. attached to the shock is a metal framework kinda shaped like a skeleton of a V plow, which the actual face of the plow is hard plastic (to save weight). the plow would have either a metal or hard plactic edge, with 2 roller wheels spaced about 4 ft apart, with an angled up guide track for vans that are slightly taller than 13 6 so the top wont just slam into it. set the bottom edge height to about 13 5, when a truck pulls up, the guide tracks travel up the front edge, and once over the edge the roller wheels keep the blade just off the top to prevent scraping which removes paint and leads to rust. the v blade splits the ice/snow and pushes it off to the sides, where it came be collected and moved via bobcat bucketloader etc. then for summer months, un bolt the top cross span, remove, and you have no problem handling overhieght loads.

What y'all think? Wouldnt take more than 1 min to clean all but like 1/4 an inch off, effective, no major delays, and other than the initial purchase/install wouldnt cost a damn thing to maintain. but we all know the truck stops would STILL charge like 3 4 bucks to use it lol.


Sounds do-able.
But what happens when an out of adjustment ice remover punches a hole in a trailer's fiberglass roof or peels a metal roof back like a sardine can?
OOooPS!
We won't charge you for that, driver.
Consider it a freebie.


Maybe truck stops should be forced by law to enclose their entire parking areas and heat it to a balmy 70 degrees.
I'm sure the desk driving law makers would consider that just a
"minor inconvenience".
And, as an added bonus, it would save fuel because the Big trucks wouldn't have to idle for the drivers to be comfortable.
Ya reckon.
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